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Chapter 6: On the place of purgatory

Our translation, from the Latin of the Opera Omnia (Paris: Vivès, 1870–74), vol. II, De Ecclesia quae est in Purgatorio, Book II, the third general controversy. The Latin source text is public domain; this English rendering is released with the site. Scripture quotations follow Bellarmine's Vulgate citations, rendered in Douay-Rheims wording where he quotes exactly. Click “Show the Latin” for the original (raw OCR of the scan; scanning errors remain — the scan itself is the authority).

The fourth question follows: where is purgatory? On this question the Church has defined nothing; but there are many opinions. First, that of some who think that souls are purged there where they sinned, that is, in various places; and indeed that souls are purged in various places is gathered probably enough from Gregory, book 4 of the Dialogues, chapters 40 and 55, who reports that the soul of Paschasius, and of a certain other, were purged in certain baths; and also from the epistle of Peter Damian on the miracles of his time, where he describes a vision of the purging of the soul of Saint Severinus in a certain river. But that all are punished there where they sinned is not probable; for it happens that someone sinned in many places, and it is not likely that he must be purged in all of them. Besides, the aforesaid visions show the contrary; for Paschasius the deacon had sinned at Rome in the election of a pontiff, but was purged in the baths of Pozzuoli; and Saint Severinus had sinned in the emperor's palace, and was purged in a river. The second opinion: that the place of souls is not bodily; so Augustine, book 12 on Genesis, chapter 32; but he retracted it, book 2 of the Retractations, chapter 24. The third: that the penal place of souls is this world, in which souls are put into a body as into a prison; Irenaeus reports and refutes this at the end of book 5; for Scripture says that souls after this life go down into the lower world, as is plain in Luke 16 and elsewhere. The fourth: that the hell and purgatory of souls is nothing else than conscience accusing and punishing sins; so Philo in the book on the meeting for the sake of instruction, and Origen, as Jerome reports in the epistle to Avitus. This is refuted; for if this opinion were true, we would be no less in hell or purgatory now than after death. The fifth is that hell, and accordingly purgatory (for they are neighbouring places), will be in the valley of Josaphat. So Chrysostom says certain ancients thought, in the homily on the rewards of the saints, volume 3; a like opinion Gregory reports, book 4 of the Dialogues, chapter 42. Perhaps their argument was that Christ everywhere calls hell gehenna, and gehenna is a certain valley so joined to the valley of Josaphat that it seems to be part of it; of which name we shall speak below. The sixth opinion is that hell is the state of the soul outside the body; for while it is in the body it is in the light, as appears from its works; when it goes out of the body it can see nothing more unless it is blessed, and these are the outer darkness; so Theophylact reports on chapter 16 of Luke. The seventh is that the penal place of souls is not the earth, but this dark air where the demons dwell; so Gregory of Nyssa in the book on the soul and the resurrection, and Chrysostom in the homily on the rewards of the blessed, and the author of the unfinished work on Matthew, homily 53; which opinion the history of Saint Fursey favours, in Bede, book 3 of the history of the English, chapter 19; for when he was dead and was being led by angels to heaven, very great fires were shown above the air, which were kept (as the angel said) for the burning of the world, and meanwhile the works of men were examined there. The eighth is the common one of the scholastics, that purgatory is within the bowels of the earth, neighbouring hell itself. For the scholastics by common consent set within the earth four hollows, or one divided into four parts: one for the damned, another for those to be purged, a third for infants dying without baptism, a fourth for the just who died before the passion of Christ, which now remains empty. The sufficiency of these is taken from the kinds of punishments; for all these are penal places; but every punishment is either of loss only, or also of sense; and again either eternal or temporal. For the eternal punishment of loss alone, then, there is the limbo of children; for the temporal punishment of loss alone there was the limbo of the Fathers; for the eternal punishment of loss and sense there is hell; for the temporal punishment of loss and sense there is purgatory.

But because Calvin says that all these are fables, book 2 of the Institutes, chapter 16, paragraph 9, and likewise his disciple Beza on chapter 2 of Acts, and his master Bucer on chapter 27 of Matthew, each must be proved. And first, that within the bowels of the earth there is some place of souls, which by a general name is called the lower world, was shown by us in book 4 on Christ, chapter 9; let the reader seek there if he wishes to know fully what belongs to this place. Further, to the arguments which we brought forward there let there be added the various eruptions of fire which appear in the earth, which blessed Gregory not rashly thinks to be certain indications of a hell existing within the bowels of the earth, book 4 of the Dialogues, chapter 35; for in the same book, chapter 30, he writes that he learned by a certain report that at the very hour in which the Arian king Theodoric died his soul was seen to be cast into the pit of Vulcan, which is in Sicily; and Laurentius Surius, in the history of the year 1097, writes that around Mount Hekla in the island of Iceland, whence flames burst forth and certain horrible sounds like thunder are heard, souls often appear which say they are sent to that mountain. So much for the lower world in general. Now of the several places. And first, that the hell of the damned is in the deepest parts of the earth is proved, first, because the lower world is within the bowels of the earth, as we have already proved; but in Luke 16 the soul of the rich man is said to have been in hell, and not only in hell, but also in a most deep place, since in order to see Lazarus, who was also then in subterranean places, he had to look upward. Besides, reason itself dictates that if the place of the blessed is in the highest heaven, the place of the damned is in the place most remote from heaven; but nothing is more remote than the centre of the earth. Then, that purgatory is also under the earth, and neighbouring the hell of the damned, is proved, first, from those words of Acts 2, having loosed the sorrows of hell, which are understood by Augustine, epistle 99, of the punishments of purgatory; whence also the Church in the Mass for the dead says: Deliver the souls of the departed from the pains of hell and from the deep pit. Second, it is confirmed from the vision which Bede reports, book 5, chapter 13, of the history, where purgatory was plainly seen contiguous to the hell of the damned. Finally, nearly all theologians teach that the damned and the souls of purgatory are in the same place and tormented by the same fire. That the limbo of children is in the lower world is proved; for the Council of Florence, last session, expressly defines that both those who die with mortal sin and those who die with original sin only go down at once into hell, to be punished however with unequal punishments; and blessed Augustine, book 1 on the baptism of infants, chapter 28, and book 5 of the Hypognosticon, says that the Catholic faith knows only two places where men are to be for ever: the heaven of the blessed and the hell of the damned. Yet it is the common opinion of the scholastics that the limbo of children is in a higher place of the lower world than purgatory is, so that the fire does not reach it; which Innocent III followed, chapter Majores, on baptism; but of this matter we must dispute elsewhere. Finally, that the limbo of the Fathers is in the lower world, but in the highest part, was proved carefully enough in book 4 on Christ, chapter 10; we shall repeat only one argument which was treated too briefly in that place. In 1 Kings, chapter 28, then, the soul of Samuel was seen to ascend from subterranean places: I saw, says the witch, gods ascending out of the earth. The adversaries will answer that that was not truly Samuel, but the devil in his form, as Tertullian teaches in the book on the soul near the end, the author of the questions in Justin, question 52, the author of the questions of the Old Testament, question 27, in Augustine, the author of the books on the wonders of holy Scripture, book 2, chapter 11, Procopius and Eucherius on this place of the book of Kings, and Isidore, book 8 of the Etymologies, chapter 9, who are moved by these reasons. First, because it is not credible that Samuel was subject to the witch, nor even that he came of his own accord, because he would have confirmed the magic art. Second, because Samuel would not have suffered himself to be adored, as that shade did. Third, because he would not have said to Saul, Tomorrow thou and thy sons shall be with me; for the soul of Saul was to go down not to the limbo of the Fathers but to hell. Fourth, because God had refused Saul an answer through prophets, through oracles and through dreams, as is said in that chapter; therefore it is not credible that he would afterwards have answered through a witch. But notwithstanding these, it must be held that it was truly the soul of Samuel which appeared, and accordingly our opinion about the subterranean place of souls is strongly confirmed. For first of all the authors cited are all either uncertain or obscure; but those who teach the contrary are certain and most famous, namely Josephus, book 6 of the Antiquities, chapter 15; Justin in the dialogue with Trypho past the middle; Basil, epistle 80, to Eustathius the physician; Ambrose on chapter 1 of Luke; Jerome on chapter 7 of Isaiah; and Augustine in the book on the care for the dead, chapter 15. Nor does it stand in the way that Augustine, book 2 to Simplicianus, question 3, doubted whether it was that soul or not; for he wrote the book on the care for the dead later, and after considering the matter more carefully. Besides these ancients, the more recent teach the same on this place: Lyranus, Tostatus, Denis the Carthusian and Cajetan. There are also most strong reasons for this opinion. First, because Scripture constantly calls him who appeared Samuel: When the woman saw Samuel, it says; and again, Samuel said to Saul; and, Saul understood that it was Samuel. But surely it would not say, understood, but thought or supposed, if it were not true. Second, because in Ecclesiasticus 46 it is set among the praises of Samuel that when dead he prophesied and announced to the king what was to come. But what praise is it that the devil should take someone's appearance and deceive? And this is the argument on account of which Augustine, in the book on the care for the dead, asserts that it was truly Samuel who appeared; which testimony he had not remembered when he wrote to Simplicianus. Third, because he foretold to Saul future things which the devil could not know, namely that on the following day he would perish with his sons, that the army would be scattered, that David would reign, and so on. Last, because the contrary reasons conclude nothing. To the first I say that Samuel came not at the command of the witch, but at the command of God, and thus rather confuted the magic art. For Samuel by his coming prevented the effect of the incantation, and showed the contrary of what is accustomed to happen to those who are called up by an incantation; and this is the reason why the witch was troubled, and cried out that she had been deceived. For if what the rabbis write is true, the shades of the dead which are called up by the power of the magic art ascend head downward; but Samuel ascended in an upright figure, so that first the head, then the breast, last the feet were seen to emerge from the earth. To the second I say that that adoration was not latria, but reverence owed to the soul of Samuel. To the third I say that that, thou shalt be with me, does not signify, thou shalt be in the bosom of Abraham, but, thou shalt be with me under the earth, that is, thou shalt be dead; for since among the sons of Saul was also the just Jonathan, Saul and Jonathan were not to go down to the same place, and yet Samuel says in general, You shall be with me. To the fourth I say that God wished to show himself angry with Saul, and did so both by not answering when he was asked, and by answering when he was not asked; for both is a sign of anger. Add that when Saul asked God, if God had answered, Saul could have declined the battle and the punishment appointed for him by God; but when he asked the witch, all things were now prepared, the battle lines drawn up and set in sight, so that in no way could the battle be declined. Then, therefore, God, to punish Saul the more, foretold to him through the prophet his own destruction and that of his sons and of the whole army. We have, then, that purgatory, hell and the limbos of the Fathers and of children are subterranean places.

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CAPUT  VI. 
Dc  loco  purgalorii. 
Scijuiliir  quaoslio  (pmrta:  Vbisil  purgalorium  7 
r)e  (lua  (]uaesliono  niliil  Ecclesia  delinivit  :  sunl 
aulcm  mullae  opiniones. 
Primo  (luoriindam  qni  putanl  ibi  animns  piirga- 
rii,ubi  pcccaverunl,  idest,  variis  in  locis,  cl  qui- 
dcm  quod  variis  in  locis  animae  purgentur,  salis 
probabililer  coUigilur  ox  Gregorio  lib.  i.  dialogo- 
rum  cap.  40.  et  cap.o.>.qui  rcfert  animam  Pascba- 
sii,  el  cujusdam  allerius  in  balncis  quibusdam  pur- 
gatas.  IVec  non  ox  cpisl.  Petri  Damiani  de  mira- 
culis  sui  tcmporis,  ubi  describil  visioncm  de  pur- 
galione  animae  s.  Severini  in  quodam  flumine.  At 
quod  omnos  ibi  pnnianlur.  ubi  peccaverunt ,  non 
est  probabilc  :  nam  conlingil  aliquem  in  multis  lo- 
cis  peccassc,  nec  est  verisimile  in  omnibus  illis 
purgandum.  Praelerea  visionos  praediclae  conlra- 
rium  ostendnnl:  nam  Pascbasius  diaconus  pecca- 
veral  llomac  in  elecliono  ponlificis.  purgabalur  au- 
tem  in  Ibermis  puteolimis.  el  s.  Severinus  pecca- 
vcral  in  palatio  imperalGris  .  el  purgabatur  in  flu- 
mine. 
Sociiiidii  opiiiln,  locininlmariiMi  non  (!Nhii  corpo' 
riiliii:  itii  Aii^.MHliiiiis  lib.  12.  dc  <icii.  cap.  rU.  n<;il 
rclraclavil  lib.  2.  r«.'tr<ir|.  c.ip.  2i. 
'rcrlia.  locii  pDciiiiliiMiiiliiiiiniin  (^mno  liiiiir  iiiiiii- 
diiiii.  III  ipio  iiiiiiiiiii!  iiiiiiioiii  iti  rorpori'  liiiinpi.iin 
11)  ciircfrc.  Iliiiic  rofi'r(,  <•(  rcfcllM  lroiiiicii«,  iu  linf, 
libn  .'».  iiiiiii  Stripliira  dnil,  .iiiiinas  po-^t  li.iiic.  vi- 
liiiii  (lo.i(;(Miiloru  in  iiifcrniiiii,  ii(  pidol  l.iicau  |<;.  cl 
alibi. 
Uiiiirlii.  iiifiriiiiiii  ol  pur^Mlonum  anim.n:  ,  niliil 
osso  aliiid  priio|i!r  consciciid.ini  acciisiiiilctn  o(  pii- 
niiMilcin  p(>ccii(a:  i(.i  IMiilo  iii  libro  do  coii|;r(^ss(i 
(piiicrcndiic  cnidilionis  ^'riilia.  o(  Ori/oncs,  ii(  ri;- 
frrl  llicroiiyiiiiis  iii  cpist.  ad  Aviliiui.  Il.icc  rolol- 
liliir:  iiani  si  isln  opiiiio  ckhcI  vnra,  iioii  iniiins  es- 
sciiiiK  nuiic  iii  infcriio  vcl  piir^'i)(orio,  quaiii  posl 
niorlcin. 
Oninlii  osl.  infornuin  .  o(  proindo  purjraioriiiin 
(siiid  cniiii  locii  viciiia)  forc  in  valli;  Josiiplnil.  Ila 
\(\W\\.  Clirysosloimis  scnsisso  vclcros  alMpios  hoiii. 
k\{^  prai>iiiiis  liciiloriiiii.  lomo  .'{.Similcm  sciitciiliani 
r(>h>rl  <in'^'()rins  lih.  i.  dialo'^'orum  cap.  42.  forlo 
iirgumcntuin  istonim  rnil.  (|iii;i  Chrisliis  |).'issiin  iii- 
r(>riniin  vociit  g(>honiiaiii,  ^cliciina  auloiii  osl  viillis 
(piiiodain  adco  conjuncta  <-iim  valle  Josaplint,  ul 
pars  ojiis  esse  vidcaliir,  de  (]i)0  nomiiK!  iiifra  dice- 
nius. 
Sexl.i  opinio  osl.  infernum  csso  slatuin  animao 
oxlra  (M)rpus:  nain  dum  est  in  corpoi'e  in  liicc  ver- 
s;dur.  iil  (>\  opcrihus  iipp:ir(M:  cuin  de  cor[)oro  o- 
xit.  iiiliil  ;iiii|)Iiiis  vidcrc,  polcst  iiisi  IkmIii  sit,  ot  i- 
sliK!  siiiit  toiiobriie  extcriores:ila  refcrl  Theopliilii- 
clus  iii  c;q)il.  10.  r.iic. 
S(>plinia  ost.lociim  pncniilemanimarum  non  ossc 
terram.  sed  aercm  isluin  caligiiiosnm  ubi  doemo- 
ncs  vcrsanlur:  ila  Grcgorius  nyssenus  in  lib.  dc 
aninia  cl  resurreclionc  ,  et  Ctirysostomus  homiliii 
de  praomiis  bealorum,  et  Aiictor  oj^eris  imporlccti 
in  iViatthaeum  hom.  53.  cui  sentenliae  fiivel  hislo- 
riii  s.Fursaoi  apud  IJedam  lib.  .T.  hislnriae  Aiiglo- 
rum  cap.  19.  illo  enim  defunclo  cuin  ab  aiigclis  in 
coelum  doduccrelur .  ostensi  sunl  maximi  ignes 
supra  a(>rem,  qui  servabanlur  (ut  angelus  dicebal) 
ad  mundi  connagralioneni.el  intcrim  examinaban- 
lur  ibi  bominum  opera. 
Oclava  ost  cominunis  scholasticorum  .  purgato- 
rium  esse  inlra  viscera  terrae,inferno  ipsi  viciiium. 
Gonsliluunt  enim  scholastici  communi  consensu 
inlra  terram  qualuor  sinus,  sive  unum  in  qualuor 
partcs  divisum.  unum  pro  dnmnalis  ,  alterum  pro 
purganriis,  lerlium  pro  infanlibus  sine  baptismo 
obeunlibus  quarlum  pro  juslis  ,  qui  moriebantur 
antc  Christi  passionem,  qui  nunc  vacuus  reinanel: 
Quorum  sufricienlia  sumilur  penes  gencra  poena- 
rum.  sunl  enim  haec  omnia  loca  poenalia;  omnis 
aulem  poena,  aut  est  tanlum  damni  ,  aui  etiam 
sensus;  et  rursus  aut  aelerna,  aut  temporalis:  pro 
poena  ergo  solius  damni  aeterna,  est  lymbus  pue- 
roruin:  pro  poena  solius  damni  temporali,erat  lym- 
bus  Palrum  ;  pro  poena  damni.  et  sensus  aetenia, 
est  infernus:  pro  poena  damni  el  sensus  temporali, 
esl  purgalorium. 
Quia  vero  haec  omnia  fabulas  esse  Calvinus  di- 
cil  lib.  2.  Inslit.  cap.  IG.  §  9.  el  simililor  discipu- 
396 
!)E  PUUGATOUIU 
liis  cjus  Deza  in  Ciip.  2.  Aclor.  cl  mngislcr  ejiis 
Buccrus  iii  ciip.  27.  3I;illli.  (ie  siiiinilis  ]>r(i!)nndiiiii 
csl.  Ac  INiimiii),  (luoil  iiUra  visccra  lcrriK!  sil  locus 
aliquis  uiiiiiiaruni,  qui  gcncrali  vocabuid  vociiUir 
infcrnus.  ilcnionslriiluin  csl  a  nobis  lib.i.dc  Cliri- 
sio  cap.  1).  inde  pelal  lcclor  si  velil  plene  cogno- 
sccrc,  quae  ad  liunc  locum  pcrlinenl, 
Porro  ad  argumcnla,  qnae  lunc  allulimus,  acce- 
daiil  variae  cruplioncs  igriis.quac  in  lcrra  apparent, 
quas  non  lcmcre  b.  Grcgorius  pulat  csse  indici;i 
quaedam  inlcrni,inlra  viscera  lcrrae  cxistcnlis  lib. 
4.  diiilogorum  cap.  :>:>.  nani  in  eodem  lib.cap.3(). 
scribil  se  ccrta  rclalione  cognovisse  .  cadcm  ipsa 
li')ia,  qua  obiil  rex  'riieodoricus  arianus  ,  visam 
liiisse  animam  cjus  jaclari  in  iovcaiii  Vulciini,([Uiie 
csl  in  Sicilia,  el  Lauicntius  Surius  in  liistoria  anni 
101)7.  scribil  circa  montem  ncelam  iiisulae  Isliin- 
diac,  unde  crumpunt  llammae,  elaudiunlur  quae- 
dam  quasi  tonilrua  liorribiliii,  saepe  apparcre  ani- 
mas,  (luae  dicant  se  mitli  ad  illum  montem.  llanc 
de  intcris  in  gencre. 
Auncde  singnlis  locis.  Ac  primum  quoil  infer- 
nus  damnatorum  sit  in  [^rofundissimis  terrae  par- 
libus,  probatur  primo,  quia  inlra  viscera  terrae  cst 
iurernus,  uljam  probavimus,  sed  Luc.  16.  anima 
divilis  Epulonis  dicilur  fuisse  in  infcrno  ,  cl  non 
solum  in  infcrno.sed  eliiiin  in  loco  profundissimo, 
quandoquidem  ut  viderel  Lazaruin,  qui  etiam  tunc 
crat  in  locis  subterrancis,  sursiim  versus  aspicerc 
debuit.  Praclerea  ratio  ipsa  diclat ,  ut  si  locus  bcii- 
torum  est  iii  summo  coclo,  locus  damnatorum  sil 
in  loco  rcmotissimoa  coclo,  niliil  aulem  remotius 
ccutro  lcrrac. 
Deinde,  quod  pnrgalorium  sil  etiam  sub  terra  , 
el  inrcrno  damn;itorum  vicinum.  probalnr  primo 
cx  illis  vcrbis  Aclnr.  2.  Solulis  doloribiis  infemi, 
(|uae  inlclliguntur  al>  Augustino  episl.  0*J.  de  poe- 
nis  purgiitorii.unde  etiam  Ecclcsia  in  niissa  de  de- 
rnnclis  dicil:  Libem  animas  defunctoruni  dc  poe- 
nis  inferni,et  de  yrofundo  lacu.  Secundo,id  con- 
lirmatur  ex  visione,  quam  refert  Beda  lib.  o.  cap. 
(3.  liistoriac,  ubiaj)crlc  visnm  cst  purgalorium  in- 
leriio  damnnloruin  conliguum.  Denique  .  llicologi 
fere  omnes  doccnt  codcm  in  loco  esse,  el  eo- 
dcm  igne  torqucri  damnatos,  cl  animas  purga- 
torii. 
Ouod  aulem  lynibus  puerorum  sil  in  inferno,pro- 
baiur;nam  concilium  florentinum  sessione  ullima, 
discrlc  definil  tani  cos  qui  inoriuntur  ciiin  [icccato 
niortiili,  quam  eos  qui  cum  solo  originali  ,  moxiu 
inlcrnQm  dcscenderc,poenis  tamen  dispnribus  pu- 
nicndos;  et  b.  Auguslinus  lib.  4.  de  biqitismo  par- 
vulorum  cap.  28.  el  lib.  .j.  bypognostici  dicit,  li- 
dcm  calholicara  non  nosse  nisi  duo  loca.ubi  homi- 
Jics  sinl  fnluri  perpcluo;coDlnm  bcalorum.el  infer- 
num  damniilorum.  Est  lamcn  comiiinnis  opinio 
sclioliislicorum,  lymbum  [mcroruin  essc  in  loco  in- 
fcrni  altiore ,  quam  sit  purgatorium  ,  ila  utad  euoi 
ignis  non  |)crvciiiiil:(|u;iin  seijiiutus  csl  Innoccnlius 
111.  ciip.  i}J(ijores,(^\[\"d  de  baj^tismo:  scd  dc  hac  re 
ulibi  dispulundum  cst. 
Quod  dcniquc  lymbus  ['alrum  sit  in  infcrno,  sed 
in  [larle  sujjrcma  ,  probiilum  csl  s;ilis  accuiale  in 
lib.  i.  dc  Chrislo  cap.  10.  unumsoluni  argumcn- 
tuni  rcpclcmus.quod  in  co  loco  iiimis  brcviler  Ira- 
cUilum  fuil.  igilur  lib.  1.  llcg.  c;i|).  28.  anima  S;i- 
niuclis  dc  locis  sublcrrancis  asccndcrc  visa  est : 
Mdi ,  in([uil  pylUoiiissa  ,  Deos  ascendentes  de 
lerra. 
Rcsiiondebunt  adversarii  illum  non  fuissc  verc 
Samuelem,  scd  diabolum  in  forma  cjus,  ut  docenl 
Tertullianus  lib.  de  aniniii  propc  lincni.  Auctor 
quacstionuni  apud  .lustiiium  (juiicst.  .'>2.  cl  auclor 
quiicslionum  vclcris  TcslaiiKMili  ([uucst.  27.  a[)U(l 
Augustinum,  cl  auctor  iibrorum  dc  mirabilibus  sa- 
crue  Scri[)lurac  lib.  2.  ciq).  II.  Procoimis  cl  JCii- 
cherius  iii  hunc  locum  libri  iicgnin.cl  Isidorus  lib. 
8.  elymologiur.  cap.  1).  qui  his  ralionibuii  mo- 
vcntur. 
l^rimo  :  quia  non  esl  credibilc  Samuelem  subje- 
ctum  fuisse  pythonissae  ,  ncc  cliam  sponte  venis- 
sc  ;  quia  arlem  magicara  confirmussct.  Secundo  : 
Ouia  Samucl  non  se  adorari  passus  fuissct,  ulilla 
umbra  fecit.  Tcrtio:  Quia  non  dixissel  Sauli:  Cras 
tu  et  filii  tui  mecum  eritis.^cc  enim  Saulis  anima 
ad  lyinbum  Pulrum,  sed  ad  gelicnnam  dcsccnsuiii 
eral.  Quarto  :  Quia  Deus  ucgavil  Sauli  rcsponsum 
per  prophclas,  per  oracula  et  per  sorania,  ut  in  eo 
capite  dicitur,  ergo  rion  esl  crcdibile  responsuruni 
poslca  fuisse  pcr  pylhonissam. 
At  his  non  obstantibus  ,  tenendum  est,  vere  Sa- 
rauelis  animum  fuisse  eam,  quae  apparuit,  et  pro- 
inde  vehemcntcr  confirmurisententiam  nostram  de 
loco  subterraneo  animarum.  Nam  in  primis  aucto- 
rcs  cilati  sunt  omnes  aul  inccrti  ,  aut  obscuri ;  at 
qui  contrarium  doccnt,  certi  el  clarissimi  sunt,  ni- 
mirum  Joseplius  lib.  0.  anliq.  cap.  13.  Juslinusin 
dialogo  cum  Triphone  ultra  raedium.  Basilius  epi- 
stol.SO.adEuslalhium  mcdicum.  Ambrosius  in  cap. 
l.Lucae.  Hieronymus  in  cap.  7.  Isaiae  ,  clAugu- 
stinus  lib.  dc  cura  pro  morluis  cap.io.  Ncque  ob- 
slat  quod  Augustinus  lib.  2.  ad  Simplicianunr 
quacst.  3.  dubituvcri,  an  fuerit  illa  anima,  nec  ne; 
nain  librum  de  cura  pro  mortuis  scripsit  posterius, 
el  rc  diligenlius  considerata.  Praeter  hos  veleres 
idein  docent  recculiores  in  hunc  locum,  Lyranus, 
Abulensis,  Dionysius  Carthusianus  et  Cajetanus. 
Sunt  etiam  pro  hac  sententia  fortissimae  ratio- 
nes:  Prinia:  Quia  Scriplura  |)e:petuo  vocat  Sumue- 
lcin,  cuin.  qui  upparuil:  Cum  vidissel,'\nc[u\\.  mu- 
lier  SamueleniAii  vuvsunwDixit  Samuet  ad  Saul; 
cl ,  inlellexit  ergo  Saul  quod  Samuel  esset.  At 
ccrle  non  diccrct,  inlcilcxit,  scd  cogilavil,  vcl  [)u- 
luvit,  si  1(1  non  csscl  verum. 
Secunda  :  Quia  Ecclcs.  46.  ponilur  in  laudibus 
Saruuelis  quod  morluus  prophelaverit  cLaonuncia- 
vcrit  rcgi  (|uac  venturu  criint.  At  quaenam  laus  cst 
quod  diubolus  ulicujus  speciem  assumat  ct  dcci- 
pial?ct  lioc  est  argumentum  propicr  quod  Aiigusli- 
nus  lib.  de  cura  pro  mortuis  asscrit,vcre  fuisse  Sa- 
muelem  illum,  qui  app;iruit ,  cujus  lcslimonii  iion 
meminerat  cum  scriberel  ad  Simpliciaiium. 
Tcrtia:  Quia  pracdixit  Sauli  fulura  ,  quae  diubo- 
lus  scirc  noii  polcriit ,  nimiriim  scqucnti  die  euiii 
cum  filiis  periturum,  cxercitum  dissipundum.Davi- 
dcm  regnalurum  ctc. 
Ultimo  :  Quia  ralioncs  contrariae  nihil  conclu- 
dunt. 
iiiirii 
rMiim 
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A(l  IMiiiiiiiM  ilico  :  SaiiiiioliMii  non  mmijsho  jiimhii 
pVlllOlllSSIIt",  ,  SCll  jllSSII    |ICI.    rl    |)llllllS    IIII|MM||\|SSI« 
(liuiiii  (-iiiiliriii<>ss(^  iirliMii  iii.i^ir.iiii.  i'i,i<;vciiil  (-111111 
S)iiiiiii!l  ikIvoiiIii  siki  i-I1V('1iiiii  iiK-.iiiliili(iiils;i'l  ('(iii- 
trariii  iiiiiilo  iisifinlil  .ili|iii'  iilii  siiltMtil,i|iii  |h'|-  jii- 
(•niilfiliitiiciii  fMilitiiliir :  i'l  liiiiT  o>l  ciitiss.i  ciii  py- 
Ukiiiissji  liirliiilii  lin-nl  ,  i<lsilii  itiipiisilutii  iIm'i>i'(:1. 
Si  uiiiiii  vcruiii  rsl  ,  (pKid  riililiiiii  st-rilniiil ,  iiiii- 
liDK^  iiKirltiDriiiii,  (piiK^  vi  inii;;ii-iKr  arlis  c\iic:iiiltir, 
r.-ipilc  tlciMstiiii  vcrsti  iisccinltiiil  :  .Siiiimcl  iiiilcm 
rccla  ll^ura  asctMiiiil,  ilii  iit  priiiiiini  capiit  ,  «lciinlc 
jK>cliis  ,  ptislrciiiti  pcdos  u  t(!rra  tMiicrgcru   visi 
siiil. 
Ail  ScciiikIuiu  dico:  lllain  adoi.-ilionciu  nnii  ruis- 
so  lalriam  ,  scd  roviircnliiim  dcliiUim  iiiiiiiiiK)  Sii- 
nmclis. 
Ad  'rcrlium  tlico;  1I1ik1:.1/cci///(  trilis.mw  sigiii' 
ncnrc  ,  in  sinu  Aliridiac  criiis  ,  s«mI  niociim  onlis 
siili  lcnii,  iilcsl,  iiitMlm  crilis:  n:im  cmii  iiilcr  lili- 
os  Siuilis  csscl  cliiim  JimkiIIiiis  iii<l'iis  ,  iiou  cr;iiil 
dosceusmi  lul  cuutlcm  liiciiin  S.ml  cl  Jon;illuis  , 
cl  timicn  Siimucl  dicil  111  ^'ciicrc:  Mcniin  viilis. 
Ail  Uuiulum  difo  :  Domii  sc  iriiliim  Siiiili  oslcn- 
dcro  voliiissc.  idipio  fcoissc  tiiiii  non  rcjipontlcndo 
(]u;uulo  inlcrr(i;;iili;iliir,(piiim  r(>spoiKlciido  ipiiiiulo 
non  inlcrr(i;;iilialur :  tilrmiupic  ciiim  csl  siLimim  i- 
rao.  Addc  .  tiuod  (-um  Siiiil  iiilciTo^iiliiil  Dcum  ,  si 
Dcus  rcspoudissot .  poluisscl  Siiul  docliuiiro  licl- 
liiin,  cl  pociiam  sihi  ;i  lU>o  piMiiliiiu:  ;il  (-iiin  inlcr- 
ropavil  pyllumissiim  .  jiiiu  criuil  omnia  piir;ilii  .  (-1 
acics  inslruclac,  cl  in  conspcclii  posilao  ,  u(  nullo 
niodo  pr;iclium  dcMcclari  posscl.Tuno  crjjo  l»cus, 
ul  niiiiiis  lumircl  Siuilcm.  pracdixil  ci  pcr  proplio- 
tam  inlerilum  suum  ,  cl  liiiorum  ,  cl  totius  cxcr- 
cilus. 
Habcmus  igilur.  purpidorimu.  infcrnum  ao  lyoi- 
bos  1'alriuu  cl  pucronim  ,  locii  sulil(M-r;mc;i  esso. 
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