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Chapter 16: The Adversaries’ Objections Are Answered

Our translation, from the Latin of the Opera Omnia (Paris: Vivès, 1870–74), vol. II, De Conciliis (De Conciliorum Auctoritate), On Councils, Book I (of the controversy On Councils and the Church). The Latin source text is public domain; this English rendering is released with the site. Scripture quotations follow Bellarmine's Vulgate citations, rendered in Douay-Rheims wording where he quotes exactly. Click “Show the Latin” for the original (raw OCR of the scan; scanning errors remain — the scan itself is the authority).

But it is objected, first, by the Protestants in the little book entitled The cause, etc., the testimony of Luke, Acts 15, where Saint Luke, speaking of the first Council of the Apostles, says: The apostles and ancients assembled to consider of this matter. And below: Then it pleased the apostles and ancients, with the whole church. Where we see that not only the Apostles, but also the Presbyters and Laymen, were present at the first Council.

I answer that in that Council the Apostles were present as judges, to define; the Presbyters to consult; but the people were not called, yet were present and consented — not indeed by defining or disputing, but only by hearing and not gainsaying. That this is so is proved in two ways. First, from the custom of the Church, which is the best interpreter of the Scriptures; for since in all the Councils celebrated after the Apostolic times it is established that this order was observed, that the Bishops alone were judges, though many others, whether Clerics or Laymen, were present, we ought to believe that altogether the same was kept in the Apostolic Council. For the whole Church, and especially in those first times, would not have departed from the example and tradition of the Apostles. Next, this same can be demonstrated from the context itself; for that the Apostles and Presbyters only were called is plain from what is there said: The apostles and ancients assembled to consider of this matter, where no mention is made of the people. Next, that both the Apostles and the Ancients spoke while it was discussed, so that a great disquisition was made; but that after the disputation, in which the Apostles and Presbyters had spoken, the Apostles alone spoke the definitive opinions, is plain from this, that only Peter, Paul, Barnabas, and James are introduced by Luke as speaking. And that no others spoke opinions is plain from the continuation of the text; for after Peter's opinion it is straightway added: And all the multitude held their peace, and they heard Paul and Barnabas. Then it is added: And after they had held their peace, namely Paul and Barnabas, James answered, saying; and soon, James's oration finished, is subjoined: Then it pleased the apostles, etc.

And so it is a lie which the Magdeburgians say, that all who were there spoke their opinion; but that which follows, It pleased the apostles and ancients, with the whole church, is understood of the tacit consent which ought to be given by all who are in the Council. See the Council of Carthage in the works of Cyprian; for even in that Council there were present with the Bishops also Presbyters, Deacons, and very many Laymen, and yet the Bishops alone spoke opinions.

Secondly, the same object in the same place: A general Council represents the whole Church; therefore there ought to be there men of every kind — that is, Bishops, Presbyters, Princes, private persons, Clerics, Laymen, etc. I answer that a thing can be represented in many ways, but the best way is that by which the peoples are represented by their Princes. For as in general assemblies of many estates the consuls or lords of the cities are wont to be gathered, so in the general assemblies of the Church all the Bishops are gathered; for each Bishop bears the person of his Church, as is plain from Cyprian, Book 4 letter 9, where he says that the Church is in the Bishop. Wherefore Eusebius, Book 3 on the life of Constantine, calls the Council of 318 Bishops an assembly of the whole world. And Augustine, Book 1 on Baptism chapter 18, calls the consent of the Bishops of that same Council the consent of the whole Church.

Thirdly, the same object in the same place: a common cause is to be helped by common votes and forces; but the cause of faith is common to all Christians, for the faith pertains no less to Laymen than to Clerics; therefore to Councils Laymen too are to be convoked. I answer: the cause of faith pertains to all, but in a diverse manner; for to the Prelates it pertains as to teachers, to the rest as to disciples — as in war the cause of victory pertains to the whole army, yet it is the leaders' to command and lead the army, the rest's to fight.

If anyone object those words of Nicholas I in his letter to Michael, which are had also distinction 96, canon Ubinam: “Where,” he says, “have you read that the Emperors your predecessors were present at synodal assemblies, unless perhaps at certain ones where the Faith was treated, which is universal, which is common to all, which pertains not only to Clerics but also to Laymen and to absolutely all Christians?” — it can be answered that Nicholas rightly gathered, from the fact that the faith is common to all, that the Emperor ought to be present, not indeed as a Judge, but as one to whom it belongs to defend the common faith by edicts and laws, and, if need be, even by the sword.

Fourthly, the same object, and Charles Molinaeus in the places noted, and Brentius in the Confession of Wittenberg chapter on Councils, and Hermann Hamelmann Book 3 of the Prolegomena chapter 6: that often the opinion of one man, even a Layman, has been preferred to the opinion of the whole Council, because it was more fortified by the authority of Scripture, and without doubt is also thereafter to be preferred; therefore to a Council Laymen too, and any others, ought to be called. The antecedent they prove, first, from Gratian, question 36, question 2, last canon, where we read that the authority of Jerome, fortified by sacred Scripture, prejudged the whole general Council. Secondly, from Panormitanus on the chapter Significasti, on election, and from John Gerson, part 1 on the examination of doctrines; of whom the former says that the opinion of one private man is to be preferred to the opinion of the Pope, if that private man be moved by better authorities of the Old and New Testament; and the latter teaches that any learned man can and ought to resist the whole Council, if he see it erring out of malice or ignorance. This argument is confirmed, because the reason why the Bishops are chiefly called is that they are thought to be more learned than the rest; if, then, many Laymen be found more learned than the Bishops, or equally learned, why will they not be called to the Council?

I answer to the first: the opinion of one private man can be preferred to the opinion of a general Council before the definition, while the cause is discussed — for in discussion erudition, not the authority of the person, holds the first place; moreover also after the definition, when it is established that the Council was illegitimate; but in no way after the definition of a legitimate Council.

To that from Gratian, I say, first, that Hermann lies when he says that according to Gratian Jerome is preferred to a general Council; for Gratian speaks not of a general, but of a particular one. Secondly I say that those words which Gratian attributes to Jerome are nowhere found in the works of Jerome, nor seem to be his. Thirdly I say that Gratian slipped in that place. For Jerome and the Council do not fight, as Gratian thought. For Jerome only said that according to the old law it was lawful for a ravisher to take to wife the woman ravished by him, if her father consent; but the Council decreed that, notwithstanding that old law, which is judicial and does not bind Christians, it is not lawful for a ravisher to take to wife her whom he ravished.

To that from Panormitanus and Gerson, I say, first, that they speak conditionally, like the Apostle when he says, Galatians 1: Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel, etc. As, therefore, from the conditional sentence of the Apostle it is not lawful to gather “therefore Apostles and Angels could preach something contrary to the Gospel of Christ,” so also from the fact that Panormitanus and Gerson say it is lawful for anyone to resist a Council or the Pope if he see them erring, it is not lawful to gather “therefore absolutely Councils and Pontiffs can err, and therefore private men are to be called to Councils.” I say, secondly, that they speak of the resistance which can be made to a Council or Pope at the time of discussion before the decision, or also afterward, when the Council is illegitimate.

To the confirmation I say that the Bishops ought indeed to be chosen the most learned and the best, yet they have the authority of judging not because they are learned, but because they are public persons — that is, Princes having Ecclesiastical jurisdiction; just as in secular Princes and Judges too, jurisprudence and probity are indeed required, yet it will not therefore be lawful for a private man, better and more learned, to thrust the Prince or Judge from his seat and occupy it.

Fourthly, Hermann Hamelmann objects, Book 3 of the Prolegomena chapter 10, many testimonies of the ancients, that causes of faith were disputed before the people as judge. For so disputed the Apostle Peter and Simon Magus, in Clement, Books 1 and 2 of the Recognitions; Archelaus the Bishop and Manichaeus, in Epiphanius heresy 66; Pope Sylvester and the Jews, in Zonaras in the life of Constantine; Athanasius and Arius, in Vigilius Bishop of Trent; Augustine and Maximinus, in Augustine Book 1 chapter 1 against Maximinus. And that in the Council of Nicaea too there were many learned and eloquent Laymen is plain from Nicephorus, Book 8 chapter 14. Finally, that the people is judge, Ambrose expressly has, in letter 32, where he speaks thus: “Who would refuse that the cause of faith be handled in the Church? If anyone is confident, let him come hither.” And a little after: “This people judges, in whose heart is the divine law, not the human — a law written not with ink, but by the Spirit of the living God.” And below: “But Auxentius, certain that you are not ignorant of the faith, refuses your examination.”

For the solution two things are to be noted. First, that there is a twofold judgment, public and private. Public is that which is pronounced by a public judge with authority, so that the rest are bound to acquiesce in that judgment. Private is that opinion which each one chooses as true, but which binds no one — in the way that in the disputations of Theologians and Philosophers the hearers are judges; for, both parts heard, they choose what they will, but can compel no one to think likewise. Note, secondly, that a public judgment in a cause of faith was never granted to the people, but a private judgment was sometimes granted even by pious and holy men; but only then, when it could not be otherwise. For the peoples are bound to follow the judgment of their pastors; yet when heretics dwell with impunity among Catholics and seduce many, it is sometimes expedient to enter public disputations with them before the people, and to leave the judgment to the people, that it may follow those whom it sees to rest on better reasons — as Elijah did, 3 Kings chapter 18, who, when he could not otherwise recall the people from the worship of Baal, set up a contest with the Prophets of Baal, the people being present, and said: He that shall answer by fire, let him be God. If the Lord be God, follow him; but if Baal, follow him.

These things noted, I say to all those places that in those disputations a private judgment was given to the people, not a public one, and this because it could not be otherwise done. Which can be understood from that letter 32 of Ambrose. For thus he says: “Let them plainly come, if there are any, to the Church; let them hear with the people — not that anyone sit as judge, but let each one have the examination of his own affection, and choose whom he will follow.” Where you see a public judgment denied to the people, a private granted. But why a private was granted, the cause was that then at Milan the Emperor favored the Arians, nor could anything else be obtained. This in general can be said to all those places. But in particular, to that of the Council of Nicaea, it must be known that the Laymen were not called, nor were present at the acts of the Council, but came of themselves, to dispute outside the Council with the Bishops, whom they had heard had come together thither from the whole world. See Rufinus, Book 10 chapter 3.

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CAPUT  XVI.

Solvuntur  objectiones  adversariorum.

At  objicitur  primo  a  Protestantibus  in  li¬
bello,  qui  inscribitur,  Causa  etc.  testimo¬
nium  Lucae,  Act.  XV,  ubi  S.  Lucas  loquens
de  primo  Concilio  Apostolorum,  ait  :  Conve¬
nerunt  Apostoli  et  Seniores  videre  de  verbo  hoc.
Et  infra  :  Tunc  placuit  Apostolis ,  et  Senioribus
cum  omni  Ecclesia  (1) ;  ubi  videmus  ,  non  so¬
lum  Apostolos,  sed  etiam  Presbyteros  et  Lai-
cos  in  primo  Concilio  adfuisse.

Respondeo,  in  isto  Concilio  interfuisse
Apostolos,  tanquam  judices,  ad  definiendum,
Presbyteros  autem  ad  consultandum ;  ple¬
bem  autem  non  esse  vocatam,  sed  tamen
adfuisse,  et  consensisse,  non  quidem  defi¬
niendo,  vel  disputando,  sed  tantum  audien¬
do,  et  non  reclamando  ;  quod  ita  esse  pro¬
batur  dupliciter.  Primum,  ex  consuetudine
Ecclesiae,  quae  est  optima  Scripturarum  in¬
terpres  ;  nam  cum  in  omnibus  Conciliis,  quae
post  Apostolica  tempora  sunt  celebrata,  hunc
ordinem  observatum  esse  constet,  ut  soli
Episcopi  fuerint  judices ,  licet  praesentes  ad¬
fuerint  multi  alii,  vel  Clerici,  velLaici,  idem
omnino  in  Apostolico  Concilio  servatum
esse  credere  debemus.  Nec  enim  Ecclesia
universa,  ac  praesertim  primis  illis  tempori¬
bus,  ab  Apostolorum  exemplo  et  traditione
discessisset.

Deinde ,  hoc  idem  ex  ipso  contextu  de¬
monstrari  potest  :  nam  quod  Apostoli  et
Presbyteri  tantum  vocati  sint ,  patet  ex  eo,
quod  ibi  dicitur  :  Convenerunt  Apostoli  et  Se¬
niores  videre  de  verbo  hoc;  ubi  nulla  mentio
fit  plebis.  Deinde,  quod  tam  Apostoli,  quam
Seniores  locuti  sint ,  donec  discutiebatur
cum  magna  disquisitio  fieret;  quod  vero  post
disputationem,  in  qua  Apostoli  et  Presbyteri
locuti  erant,  soli  Apostoli  sententias  defini¬
tivas  dixerint,  patet  ex  eo,  quod  soli  Petrus,
Paulus,  Barnabas,  et  Jacobus  introducuntur
a  Luca  loquentes.  Et  quod  nulli  alii  senten¬
tias  dixerint,  patet  ex  continuatione  textus ;
nam  post  Petri  sententiam  ,  mox  subditur  :


Tacuit  autem  omnis  multitudo ,  et  audiebat  Pau¬
lum  et  Barnabam.  Deinde  subditur  :  Et  post-
quam  tacuerunt,  nimirum  Paulus  et  Barnabas,
respondit  Jacobus  dicens,  et  mox  finita  Jacobi
oratione  subjungitur  :  Tunc  placuit  Aposto¬
lis  etc.

Itaque  mendacium  est,  quod  Magdebur-
genses  dicunt,  omnes  qui  ibi  erant,  senten¬
tiam  suam  dixisse ,  quod  autem  sequitur  :
Placuit  Apostolis  et  Senioribus  cum  omni  Ec¬
clesia ,  intelligitur  de  consensu  tacito,  qui
debet  dari  ab  omnibus,  qui  sunt  in  Concilio.
Vide  Concilium  Carthaginiense  in  operibus
Cypriani;  nam  etiam  in  eo  Concilio  adfue¬
runt  cum  Episcopis  etiam  Presbyteri ,  Dia¬
coni,  et  Laici  permulti,  et  tamen  soli  Epis¬
copi  sententias  dixerunt.

Secundo,  objiciunt  iidem  ibidem  :  Conci¬
lium  generale  universam  Ecclesiam  reprae¬
sentat,  ergo  debent  esse  ibi  homines  ex  omni
genere,  id  est,  Episcopi,  Presbyteri,  Princi¬
pes,  Privati,  Clerici,  Laici  etc.

Respondeo,  multis  modis  posse  aliquid  re¬
praesentari  ,  sed  optimum  modum  esse,  quo
per  Principes  repraesantantur  populi.  Sicut
enim  in  comitiis  generalibus  multorum  sta¬
tuum  congregari  solent  consules  vel  domini
civitatum,  sic  in  comitiis  Ecclesiae  generali¬
bus  congregantur  omnes  Episcopi :  nam  qui¬
libet  Episcopus  personam  gerit  suae  Eccle¬
siae,  ut  patet  ex  Cypriano  lib.  IV,  ep.  9.  ubi
dicit,  Ecclesiam  esse  in  Episcopo.  Quare
Eusebius  lib.  III  de  vita  Constantini,  Conci¬
lium  Episcoporum  318,  vocat  conventum
orbis  terrarum.  Et  Augustinus  lib.  I  de
Baptismo,  cap.  18.  ejusdem  Concilii  Episco¬
porum  consensum,  vocat  totius  Ecclesiae  con¬
sensum.

Tertio,  objiciunt  iidem  ibidem  :  commu¬
nis  causa  communibus  votis  et  viribus  ju¬
vanda  est,  sed  causa  fidei  est  communis  om¬
nibus  Christianis;  nec  enim  minus  fides  ad
Laicos,  quam  ad  Clericos  pertinet;  igitur  ad
Concilia  etiam  Laici  convocandi  sunt.  Res¬
pondeo  :  causam  fidei  ad  omnes  pertinere,
sed  diverso  modo ;  nam  ad  Praelatos  perti¬
net,  ut  doctores;  ad  caeteros,  ut  discipulos;
sicut  in  bello  causa  victoriae  ad  totum  exer¬
citum  pertinet,  tamen  ducum  est  praeci¬
pere  et  ducere  exercitum ,  caeterorum  pug¬
nare.

Si  quis  objiciat  illa  verba  Nicolai  I  in  epis¬
tola  ad  Michaelem,  quae  habentur  etiam


(1)  Act.  XV,  6,  7,  22  et  possim.






dist.  96.  can.  Ubinam  :  «  Ubinam ,  inquit,
legistis,  Imperatores  antecessores  vestros  sy-
nodalibus  conventibus  interfuisse,  nisi  forte
in  quibusdam,  ubi.  de  Fide  tractatum  est,
quae  universalis  est,  quse  omnium* communis,
quae  non  solum  ad  Clericos,  verum  etiam  ad
Laicos.  et  omnes  omnino  pertinet  Christia¬
nos?  »  Responderi  potest,  Nicolaum  ex  eo,
quod  fides  communis  est  omnibus,  recte  col¬
legisse,  Imperatorem  debere  interesse  ,  non
quidem  ut  Judicem,  sed  ut  eum,  cui  incum¬
bit  defendere  communem  fidem  edictis  ac
legibus,  et  si  oporteat,  etiam  gladio.

Quarto,  objiciunt  iidem,  et  Carolus  Moli-
naeus  locis  notatis,  necnon  Brentius  in  Con¬
fessione  Wirtembergica  ,  c.  de  Conciliis  ,  et
Hermannus  Hamelmannus  lib.  III  Prolego-
menorum  cap.  6.  saepe  unius  hominis  etiam
Laici  sententia  praeposita  est  sententiae  totius
Concilii,  quia  Scripturae  auctoritate  magis
munita  erat,  et  sine  dubio  etiam  deinceps
praeponenda  est ;  Ergo  debent  ad  Concilium
vocari  etiam  Laici,  et  quicumque  alii.

Antecedens  probant ,  primo  ex  Gratiano
36,  q.  2,  can.  ult.  ubi  legimus  Hieronymi
auctoritatem,  Scriptura  sacra  munitam,  toti
Concilio  generali  praejudicasse.  Secundo,  ex
Panormitano  in  cap.  Significasti,  de  electio¬
ne,  et  ex  Joanne  Gersone  par.  I  de  exami¬
natione  doctrinarum  :  quorum  ille  dicit,
unius  privati  sententiam  praeponendam  esse
sententiae  Papae,  si  ille  privatus  moveatur
melioribus  auctoritatibus  Testamenti  veteris
et  novi ;  iste  autem  docet,  quemcumque  ho¬
minem  doctum  posse  et  debere  toti  Concilio
resistere,  si  videat  illud  ex  malitia,  vel  igno¬
rantia  errare.

Confirmatur  hoc  argumentum,  quia  ratio,
cur  Episcopi  praecipue  vocentur,  est,  quia
existimantur  esse  doctiores  caeteris;  si  ergo
multi  Laici  inveniantur  doctiores  Episcopis,
vel  aeque  docti,  cur  non  vocabuntur  ad  Con¬
cilium?

Respondeo  ad  primum  :  sententiam  unius
privati  posse  anteponi  sententiae  Concilii  ge¬
neralis  ante  definitionem,  dum  causa  discu¬
titur,  in  discussione  enim  eruditio,  non  auc¬
toritas  personae  primas  tenet ;  praeterea  etiam
post  definitionem,  quando  constat,  Concilium
fuisse  illegitimum  :  at  nullo  modo  post  defi¬
nitionem  Concilii  legitimi.

Ad  illud  ex  Gratiano,  dico  primo,  mentiri
Hermannum,  cum  ait,  secundum  Gratianum


anteponi  Hieronymum  Concilio  generali;
non  enim  de  generali,  sed  de  particulari  lo¬
quitur  Gratianus.  Secundo  dico  ,  illa  verba,
quae  Gratianus  Hieronymo  tribuit,  nusquam
inveniri  in  operibus  Hieronymi,  nec  videri
ejus  verba.  Tertio  dico  ,  Gratianum  eo  loco
lapsum  esse.  Non  enim  pugnant  Hierony¬
mus,  et  Concilium,  ut  Gratianus  putavit.
Hieronymus  enim  tantum  dixit,  secundum
legem  veterem  licuisse  raptori  ducere  in  uxo¬
rem  mulierem  a  se  raptam ,  si  pater  ejus
consentiat;  Concilium  autem  statuit,  ut  non
obstante  lege  illa  veteri ,  quae  judicialis  est,
et  Christianos  non  obligat,  non  liceat  raptori
in  uxorem  ducere  eam,  quam  rapuit.

Ad  illud  ex  Panormitano  et  Gersone,  dico
primo,  eos  loqui  canditionaliter,  sicut  Apos¬
tolus,  cum  ait  ad  Galat.  I  :  Si  nos,  aut  Ange¬
lus  de  coelo  evangelizet  etc.  (1).  Sicut  ergo  ex
conditionali  sententia  Apostoli  non  licet  col¬
ligere,  ergo  Apostoli  et  Angeli  poterant
Evangelizare  aliquid  contrarium  Evangelio
Christi,  ita  quoque  ex  eo,  quod  Panormita¬
nus  et  Gerson  dicunt,  licere  unicuique  resis¬
tere  Concilio,  aut  Papas,  si  eos  errare  videat ;
non  licere  colligere  ,  ergo  absolute  Concilia
et  Pontifices  errare  possunt ,  et  ideo  privati
homines  ad  Concilia  vocandi  sunt.  Dico  se¬
cundo,  eos  loqui  de  resistentia  ,  quas  potest
fieri  Concilio  vel  Papae,  tempore  discussionis
ante  decisionem,  vel  etiam  postea,  quando
Concilium  est  illegitimum.

Ad  confirmationem  dico,  Episcopos  qui¬
dem  debere  eligi  quam  doctissimos  et  opti¬
mos,  tamen  eos  auctoritatem  judicandi  ha¬
bere,  non  quia  docti  sunt,  sed  quia  sunt  per¬
sonae  publicas,  id  est,  Principes  habentes  Ec¬
clesiasticam  jurisdictionem  ;  quemadmodum
etiam  in  Principibus  et  Judicibus  saeculari¬
bus,  requiritur  quidem  jurisprudentia  et
probitas,  tamen  non  propterea  licebit  pri¬
vato  homini  meliori ,  et  doctiori  deturbare
Principem,  aut  Judicem  de  sua  sede,  et  eam
oecupare.

Quarto,  objicit  Hermannus  Hamelmannus
lib.  III  Prolegomenor.  c.  10.  multa  veterum
testimonia,  quod  coram  populo  tanquam  ju¬
dice  causae  fidei  disputatae  sint.  Sic  enim
disputarunt  Apostolus  Petrus  et  Simon  Ma¬
gus,  apud  Clementem  lib.  I  et  II  Recognitio¬
num  ;  Archelaus  Episcopus  et  Manichaeus,
apud  Epiphanium  haeresi  56.  Sylvaster  Papa
et  Judaii,  apud  Zonaram  in  vita  Constan-


(1)  Galat.  I,  8.




UBER  I.


tini;  Athanasius  et  Arius,  apud  Vigilium
Episcopum  Tridcntinum  ;  Augustinus  et  Ma¬
ximinus,  apud  Augustinumlib.  I,  c.  1.  cont.
Maximin.  Quod  etiam  in  Nicaeno  Concilio
multi  fuerint  Laici  docti  et  eloquentes,  patet
ex  Nicephoro  lib.  VIII,  c.  14.  Denique,  quod
populus  sit  judex,  diserte  habet  Ambrosius
in  epist.  32.  ubi  sic  loquitur:  «Causam  fidei,
inquit,  in  Ecclesia  agendam  quis  abnuat?  Si
quis  confidit,  huc  veniat.  »  Et  paulo  post  :
«  Iste  populus  judicat,  cujus  in  corde  lex  di¬
vina  est,  non  humana  :  Lex  non  atramento
scripta,  sed  Spiritu  Dei  vivi.  »  Et  infra  :
«  Sed  Auxentius,  inquit ,  certus  non  ignaros
vos  esse  fidei,  vestrum  refugit  examen.  i>

Pro  solutione  duo  notanda  sunt.  Primo,
duplex  esse  judicium,  publicum  et  privatum.
Publicum  est,  quod  profertur  a  publico  ju¬
dice  cum  auctoritate,  ita  ut  teneantur  cseteri
illi  judicio  acquiescere.  Privatum  est,  ea
sententia,  quam  quisque  eligit  ut  veram,
sed  neminem  obligat;  quomodo  in  disputa¬
tionibus  Theologorum  et  Philosophorum,
auditores  sunt  judices;  audita  enim  utraque
parte  eligunt  quod  volunt,  sed  neminem  co¬
gere  possunt,  ut  similiter  sentiat.

Nota  secundo,  judicium  publicum  in  causa
fidei  numquam  esse  tributum  populo,  judi¬
cium  autem  privatum  aliquando  esse  tribu¬
tum  etiam  a  piis  et  sanctis  hominibus ;  sed
tunc  solum,  cum  aliud  fieri  non  potuit  :  te¬
nentur  enim  populi  sequi  judicium  pastorum
suorum ;  tamen  quando  haeretici  impune
versantur  cum  Catholicis,  et  multos  sedu¬
cunt,  expedit  quandoque  publicas  disputa¬
tiones  coram  populo  cum  iis  inire,  et  relin¬
quere  judicium  populo,  ut  sequatur,  quos  vi¬
derit  melioribus  rationibus  niti  :  quomodo
fecit  Elias  lib.  III.  Reg.  cap.  XVIII  qui  cum
non  posset  aliter  revocare  populum  a  cultu
Baal,  instituit  certamen  cum  Prophetis  Baal,
praesente  populo,  et  ait  :  Qui  exaudierit  per
ignem ,  ille  sit  Deus.  Si  Dominus  est  Deus  ,  se¬
quimini  illum,  si  Baal  est  Deus ,  sequimini
eum  (1).

His  notatis,  dico  ad  illa  omnia  loca  ,  in  il¬
lis  disputationibus  datum  esse  populo  judi¬
cium  privatum,  non  publicum  ,  et  hoc  quia
non  poterat  aliter  fieri.  Id  quod  ex  illa  epist.
32  Ambrosii  intelligi  potest.  Sic  enim  ait  :
«  Veniant  plane  si  qui  sunt,  ad  Ecclesiam,
audiant  cum  populo,  non  ut  quisquam  judex
resideat ;  sed  unusquisque  de  suo  affectu


habeat  examen,  et  eligat  quem  sequatur.  »
Ubi  vides  negari  populo  judicium  publicum,
tribui  privatum.  Cur  autem  tribueretur  pri¬
vatum,  causa  erat,  quia  tunc  Mediolani  Im¬
perator  Arianis  favebat,  nec  poterat  aliud
obtineri.  Hoc  in  genere  ad  illa  omnia  loca
dici  potest.  In  particulari  autem,  ad  illud  de
Nicaeno  Concilio,  sciendum  est,  Laicos  non
esse  vocatos,  nec  interfuisse  actis  Concilii ;
sed  per  se  venisse  ,  ut  extra  Concilium  dis¬
putarent  cum  Episcopis,  quos  audierant  ex
toto  orbe  eo  convenisse.  Vide  Ruffinum  1.  X,
c.  3.
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