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Chapter 27: The Testimony of Theodoret and Gelasius

Our translation, from the Latin of the Opera Omnia (Paris: Vivès, 1870–74), vol. IV, De Sacramento Eucharistiae, Book II: On the Truth of the Body of the Lord in the Eucharist, from the Testimonies of the Fathers. The Latin source text is public domain; this English rendering is released with the site. Scripture quotations follow Bellarmine's Vulgate citations, rendered in Douay-Rheims wording where he quotes exactly. Click “Show the Latin” for the original (raw OCR of the scan; scanning errors remain — the scan itself is the authority).

Theodoret was the equal of Cyril, and survived him too, as is clear from the epistle of Theodoret to John of Antioch on the death of Cyril, which is read in the fifth Synod.

Two passages are produced from Theodoret, both by Catholics and by heretics. The former is in the first Dialogue: “Our Saviour,” he says, “changed the names, and on the body indeed imposed the name which was of the symbol and sign, but on the symbol that which was of the body.” So he. Which words the adversaries take for themselves. But a little after he thus subjoins, rendering the reason of the change of names: “For He wished that those who are partakers of the mysteries should not attend to the nature of the things which are seen, but, on account of the change of names, believe the change which is made by grace.” So he; where he says that the bread was called body, that from the change of name we might understand and believe a change of the thing. Theodoret does not, therefore (as the adversaries say), mean that the Eucharist is called body only because it represents the body of the Lord by its external species, but because in reality the bread is inwardly changed into the body.

The latter passage is in the second Dialogue: “For neither,” he says, “do the mystical signs recede from their nature after the sanctification; for they remain in their former substance and figure and form, and can be seen and touched as before; but they are understood to be that which they have been made, and are believed, and are adored, as being that which they are believed to be.” So he. The former part of this passage the heretics seize, the latter the Catholics.

But it must be observed that this passage in appearance indeed helps somewhat the cause of Luther, who thought the true body of Christ to be joined with the true bread, but utterly destroys the cause of Calvin, Peter Martyr, and the other Sacramentarians. For Theodoret in this place most plainly asserts the presence of the body of the Lord in the Eucharist, when he says that the body of the Lord is understood, believed, and adored in the Eucharist; and that it is therefore understood, believed, and adored, because the bread of the Eucharist, that is, the consecrated bread, is truly that which is understood, believed, and adored. Add that in the same place Theodoret was unwilling to speak openly, fearing lest there be present among the hearers someone uninitiated: “It is not fitting,” he says, “to speak openly; for it is probable that some uninitiated are present.” But of the Eucharist, as the Calvinists now understand it, he could have spoken most plainly to any unbelievers whatever, since there is nothing marvelous in it, nothing arduous. Finally, Theodoret wishes to prove in all those dialogues that in Christ there are truly two natures, and this by the example of the Eucharist, where we truly believe that with the symbols of bread there is the body of Christ. But if he had denied the true presence of the body of the Lord in the Eucharist, he would have fought against himself for the adversaries.

But neither does he help the cause of Luther, if Theodoret be diligently considered. For when he says that the substance of the symbols remains and is not changed, he does not speak of substance as it is distinguished against accidents, and which Aristotle placed in the first category, but of the essence and nature of the accidents, which he perpetually calls symbols; in which manner other authors, Greek and Latin, everywhere take the word ‘substance’; but especially the Greek words [physis] and [ousia], which Theodoret used, embrace every essence and nature. Nor only the Greeks, but the Latins too, sometimes by ‘substance’ understand the nature of the accidents. Peter of Cluny, in his book On the Sacrifice and Transubstantiation: “Dost thou not perceive,” he says, “that, besides the glacial hardness, besides the stony firmness (as far as pertains to the species or transparency of the aforesaid element), nothing at all of the substance is taken away?” Where by ‘substance’ he understands the nature of the external figure and transparency, which remain when ice is changed into crystal.

This, then, Theodoret teaches: that the nature of the symbols, that is, of the sensible accidents which are in the Eucharist, was also before the consecration. That he speaks thus is clear. First, because in the second Dialogue the heretic urged, from the common faith, the change of the bread into the body of Christ, that thence he might prove his error concerning the change of one nature into another in the mystery of the Incarnation. But the Catholic does not deny that some change of the bread into the body of Christ is made—which certainly he ought to have done if the opinion of the Lutherans were true. Nay, he rather ought to have argued from the Eucharist against the Eutychian. For if it were true, which the Lutherans say, that in the Eucharist the bread and the body remain without any real change of the bread, the example of the Eucharist would not have helped the Eutychians at all, not even in appearance. The Catholic, then, in the Dialogue of Theodoret, because he could not deny the change of the essence of the bread, has recourse to the external symbols, and says that the nature of the symbols is not changed, and that in this manner there are in the Eucharist two natures unmingled. Secondly, because he so explains himself. For where he had said that the nature of the symbols remains, he proves it because we see and touch the same color, the same figure and form, which we saw and touched before. Thirdly, because otherwise he would fight with himself. For he says that the symbols are both changed and not changed; and that the symbols are indeed seen and touched, yet the body of the Lord is understood and believed; which do not cohere, unless we say that they are changed as to the internal substance of the bread, not changed as to the external nature and properties of the accidents. Fourthly, because it is in no way credible that Theodoret wished to repugn so openly Chrysostom, Ambrose, Cyril, and others, who deny that bread remains in the Eucharist; for these authors he cites most frequently in those Dialogues, and Theodoret was especially most devoted to Chrysostom.

The very same reasoning holds of the opinion of Gelasius in his book On the Two Natures. For whoever that Gelasius was (for it is not sufficiently established who he was) teaches altogether the same as Theodoret, and to confirm the same thing; for he says that the nature of the bread remains in the Eucharist, and yet in the same place says that it is changed, the Holy Spirit accomplishing it, into the divine substance; and that the Eucharist is a divine thing, so that by its reception we are made partakers of the divine nature.

Where in passing it must be noted that this Gelasius was not the Roman Pontiff, as the adversaries impudently boast. For Kemnitz, part 2 of the Examen of the Council of Trent, session 13, chapter 4, marvelously triumphs from this testimony, as of a Roman Pontiff. But that it is not of a Roman Pontiff can be shown by a most certain argument: that, although he says he wishes to relate the testimonies of all the Fathers, he makes no mention of Jerome, Augustine, Leo, and the like, who were most well known to Pope Gelasius. Besides, that this Gelasius adduces many testimonies from Eusebius of Caesarea; which Pope Gelasius would never have done, since he reprobated the books of Eusebius in his decree on authentic and apocryphal books. Add that this Gelasius seems to have written before the Council of Chalcedon, and to be the very one whom Theodoret cites in the third Dialogue, and whom Jerome mentions in his book On Ecclesiastical Writers, namely Gelasius, bishop of Caesarea, who could not but have been very old when he wrote that book against the Eutychians. But whoever at length he was, he does not differ from the other Catholic writers, as we have now shown.

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CAPUT  XXVII. 

Testimonium  Theodoreti  et  Gelasii. 

Theodoretus  sequalis  Cyrilli  fuit,  et  ei  etiam 
supervixit,  ut  patet  ex  epist.  Theodoreti 
ad  Joannem  Antiochenum  de  obitu  Cyrilli, 
qua;  legitur  in  V.  Synodo. 

Duo  loca  proferuntur  ex  Theodoreto,  tum 
a  Catholicis,  tum  ab  haereticis.  Prior  est  in 
primo  Dialogo  :  «  Servator,  inquit,  noster 
nomina  commutavit,  et  corpori  quidem  id, 
quod  erat  symboli,  ac  signi  nomen  impo¬ 
suit  :  symbolo  autem  quod  erat  corporis.  » 
Ikec  ille.  Quae  verba  pro  se  accipiunt  adver¬ 
sarii.  Sed  paulo  post  ita  subjungit,  reddens 
mutationis  nominum :  «  Volebat  enim,  in¬ 
quit,  eos,  qui  sunt  mysteriorum  participes, 
non  attendere  naturam  eorum,  qua;  videntur 
sed  propter  nominum  permutationem  muta- 
tationi,  quae  fit  ex  gratia,  credere»  .  Haec 
ille ;  ubi  dicit,  panem  vocatum  esse  corpus, 
ut  ex  nominis  mutatione,  intelligeremus,  et 
crederemus  rei  mutationem.  Non  ergo  vult 
Theodoretus  (ut  adversarii  dicunt)  Euchari¬ 
stiam  vocari  corpus,  solum,  quia  repraesentat 
externa  specie  corpus  Domini ;  sed  quia  re¬ 
vera  interius  mutatus  est  panis  in  corpus. 

Posterior  locus  est  in  secundo  Dialogo  : 
«  Neque  enim,  inquit,  signa  mystica  post 
sanctificationem  recedunt  a  sua  natura,  ma¬ 
nent  enim  in  priora  substantia,  et  figura,  et 
forma,  et  videri,  et  tangi  possunt,  sicut  prius : 
intelliguntur  autem  ea  esse,  quae  facta  sunt, 
et  creduntur,  et  adorantur,  ut  quae  illa  sint, 
qua;  creduntur.  »  Haec  ille.  Hujus  loci  prio¬ 
rem  partem  arripiunt  hseretici,  posteriorem 
Catholici. 

Sed  observandum  est  locum  istum  in  spe¬ 
cie  quidem  juvare  nonnihil  causam  Lutheri, 
qui  putavit  cum  pane  vero  conjunctum  esse 
corpus  Christi  verum  :  at  causam  Calvini  et 
Petri  Martyris,  et  aliorum  Sacramcntariorum 
penitus  destruere.  Nam  apertissime  asserit 
hoc  loco  Theodoretus  praesentiam  corporis 


Domini  in  Eucharistia,  cum  dicit,  intelligi, 
credi,  et  adorari  corpus  Domini  in  Eucha¬ 
ristia,  et  ideo  intelligi,  credi,  et  adorari, 
quia  panis  Eucharistia;,  id  est,  panis  conse¬ 
cratus,  est  vere  id  quod  intelligitur ,  cre¬ 
ditur  ,  et  adoratur.  Adde ,  quod  ibidem 
nolebat  Theodoretus  aperte  loqni,  metuens 
ne  adesset  inter  auditores  aliquis  non  initia¬ 
tus  :  «  Non  oportet,  inquit,  aperte  dicere; 
est  enim  verisimile  adesse  aliquos  non  ini¬ 
tiatos  » .  At  de  Eucharistia,  ut  jam  intelligunt 
Calvinista;,  potuisset  quibusvis  infidelibus 
apertissime  loqui,  cum  nihil  in  ea  mirabile, 
nihil  arduum  sit.  Denique  probare  vult  Theo¬ 
doretus  in  illis  omnibus  dialogis,  in  Christo 
vere  esse  duas  naturas,  idque  exemplo  Eu¬ 
charistia;,  ubi  vere  credimus  cum  symbolis 
panis  esse  corpus  Christi.  At  si  negasset  ve¬ 
ram  praesentiam  corporis  Domini  in  Eucha¬ 
ristia,  contra  seipsum  pro  adversariis  pu- 
gnasset. 

Sed  nec  Lutheri  causam  adjuvat,  si  dili¬ 
genter  consideretur  Theodoretus.  Nam  cum 
dicit,  substantiam  symbolorum  remanere,  et 
non  mutari,  non  loquitur  de  substantia,  quae 
distinguitur  contra  accidentia,  et  quam  in 
prima  categoria  posuit  Aristoteles,  sed  de 
essentia,  et  n altura  accidentium,  quae  ipse 
perpetuo  symbola  appellat,  quomodo  alii 
auctores  Graeci  et  Latini  passim  accipiunt 
vocabulum  substantiae  :  sed  maxime  Graecae 
voces  cpuffi;  et  ouata,  quibus  Theodoretus  usus 
est,  omnem  essentiam  et  naturam  amplectun¬ 
tur.  Nec  solum  Gra;ci,  sed  Latini  etiam  in¬ 
terdum  per  substantiam  intelligunt  naturam 
accidentium.  Petrus  Cluniacensis  in  libro  de 
sacrificio,  et  transubstantiatione  :  «  Annon 
cernis,  inquit,  praeter  glacialem  duritiam, 
praeter  lapideam  firmitatem  (  quantum  ad 
speciem,  vel  perspicuitatem  jam  dicti  ele¬ 
menti  pertinet )  nihil  utique  substantiae  de¬ 
tractum?  »  Ubi  per  substantiam  intelligit 
naturam  externae  figurae  et  perspicuitatis, 
quae  manent,  quando  mutatur  glacies  in  cry¬ 
stallum. 

Hoc  igitur  Theodoretus  docet,  naturam 
symbolorum,  id  est,  accidentium  sensibilium, 
quae  sunt  in  Eucharistia,  fuisse  etiam  ante 
consecrationem.  Eum  ita  loqui  patet.  Primo, 
quia  in  Dialogo  secundo  haereticus  ex  com¬ 
muni  fide  urgebat  mutationem  panis  in  cor¬ 
pus  Christi,  ut  inde  probaret  suum  errorem 
de  mutatione  unius  naturae  in  alteram  in 
mysterio  Incarnationis.  Catholicus  autem  non 
negat  mutationem  aliquam  panis  in  corpus 


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LIBER  II. 


Christi  fieri,  quod  certe  facere  debuisset,  si 
esset  vera  sententia  Luth eranorum.  Imo 
ipse  potius  debuisset  ex  Eucharistia  argu¬ 
mentari  contra  Eutycliianum.  Si  enim -verum 
esset,  quod  Lutherani  dicunt,  manere  in 
Eucharistia  panem  et  corpus  sine  ulla  reali 
mutatione  panis,  exemplum  Eucharistia;  ni¬ 
hil  omnino,  ne  quoad  speciem  quidem  Euty- 
chianos  juvisset.  Catholicus  ergo  in  Dialogo 
Theodoreti,  quia  non  poterat  negare  muta¬ 
tionem  essentiae  panis,  confugit  ad  symbola 
externa,  ac  dixit,  naturam  symbolorum  non 
mutari,  et  eo  modo  esse  in  Eucharistia  duas 
naturas  impermixtas.  Secundo,  quia  ita  se 
ipse  explicat.  Nam  ubi  dixisset  naturam  sym¬ 
bolorum  manere,  probat,  quia  videmus,  et 
tangimus  cumdem  colorem,  eamdem  figuram 
et  formam,  quam  antea  videbamus  et  tange¬ 
bamus.  Tertio,  quia  alioqui  pugnaret  secum. 
Nam  ipse  dicit  mutari,  et  non  mutari  sym¬ 
bola  ;  et  videri  quidem  ac  tangi  symbola, 
tamen  intclligi,  et  credi  corpus  Domini ;  quee 
non  cohaerent,  nisi  dicamus  mutari,  quoad 
internam  substantiam  panis,  non  mutari 
quoad  exteriorem  naturam,  et  proprietates 
accidentium.  Quarto,  quia  non  est  ullo  modo 
credibile,  Theodoretum  tam  aperte  repu¬ 
gnare  voluisse  Chrysostomo,  Ambrosio,  Cy- 
rillo  et  aliis,  qui  negant  panem  manere  in 
Eucharistia  :  hos  enim  auctores  in  illis  Dia¬ 
logis  frequentissime  citat,  et  praecipue  Chry¬ 
sostomo  Theodoretus  addictissimus  fuit. 

Eadem  prorsus  ratio  est  de  sententia  Gela- 
sii  in  libro  de  duabus  naturis.  Nam  quicum¬ 
que  fuerit  is  Gelasius  (neque  enim  satis  con¬ 
stat,  quis  ille  fuerit)  idem  prorsus  docet,  quod 
Theodoretus,  et  ad  eamdem  rem  confirman¬ 
dam  :  dicit  enim  manere  naturam  panis  in 
Eucharistia,  et  tamen  ibidem  dicit  mutari 
Spiritu  sancto  perficiente  in  divinam  sub¬ 
stantiam;  et  esse  Eucharistiam  rem  divinam, 
ita  ut  ejus  perceptione  efficiamur  clivina) 
consortes  natura). 

Ubi  obiter  est  notandum,  Gelasium  istum 
non  fuisse  Romanum  Pontificem,  ut  adver¬ 
sarii  impudenter  jactant.  Nam  Kemnitius  2. 
par.  Examinis  Tridenti  ni  Concilii  sess.  xm. 
cap.  4.  mirabiliter  triumphat  ex  hoc  testi¬ 
monio,  tanquam  Romani  Pontificis.  At  non 
esse  Romani  Pontificis ,  argumento  certis¬ 
simo  esse  potest,  quod  cum  dicat  se  velle 
referre  testimonia  omnium  Patrum,  nullam 
mentionem  facit  Hieronymi,  Augustini,  Leo¬ 
nis,  et  similium,  qui  Gelasio  Papa)  notissimi 
erant.  Praeterea  quod  multa  testimonia  affe¬ 


rat  iste  Gelasius  ex  Eusebio  Caesariensi ;  quod 
nunquam  Gelasius  Papa  fecisset,  cum  Euse- 
bii  libros  reprobaverit  in  suo  decreto  de  li¬ 
bris  authenticis  et  apochryphis.  Adde,  quod 
videtur  iste  Gelasius  scripsisse  ante  Conci¬ 
lium  Chalcedonense,  et  is  ipse  esse,  quem 
Theodoretus  citat  in  m  Dialogo ,  et  cujus 
meminit  Hieronymus  in  lib.  de  scriptor.  Ec- 
clcs.  nimirum  Gelasius  Episcopus  Caesarien¬ 
sis,  qui  non  potuit  nisi  valde  senex  esse,  cum 
librum  istum  scripsit  contra  Eutvchianos. 
Sed  quicumque  tandem  fuerit,  non  discre¬ 
pat  ab  aliis  Catholicis  scriptoribus  ,  ut  jam 
ostendimus.
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