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Chapter 13: The objections from the Fathers are solved

Our translation, from the Latin of the Opera Omnia (Paris: Vivès, 1870–74), vol. II, De Ecclesia quae est in Purgatorio, Book I, the third general controversy. The Latin source text is public domain; this English rendering is released with the site. Scripture quotations follow Bellarmine's Vulgate citations, rendered in Douay-Rheims wording where he quotes exactly. Click “Show the Latin” for the original (raw OCR of the scan; scanning errors remain — the scan itself is the authority).

From the Fathers Brenz brings forward, first, Cyprian, who in tract 1 against Demetrianus says at the end: “When once one has gone out hence, there is no longer any place for penance, no effect of satisfaction.” I answer that he speaks of the satisfaction for fault which precedes justification; for the Fathers plainly distinguish a twofold satisfaction: one before justification, by which God is appeased from congruity and inclined to the remission of fault, of which Daniel 4 says, Redeem thou thy sins with alms; the other after justification, by which satisfaction is made to God from condignity for punishment. That Cyprian here speaks of the former is plain from what precedes, where he says: “Let whoever, while he still has something of this world, obtain from God the merciful and forgiving, by the light of religion once received, deliverance from the depth of the darkness of superstition.” Likewise from what follows; for after the words cited by Brenz there follows immediately: “Here life is either lost or kept.”

Second, he brings forward Chrysostom, homily 2 on Lazarus, where it is said thus: “When we have departed hence, it is not in our power to repent, nor to wash away what has been committed.” And again: “For those who have not washed away their sins in the present life will find no consolation afterwards.” I answer that he speaks of the remission of mortal sins; for by the example of the rich man, who is tormented in hell, he warns us not to put off conversion to the other life. But no Catholic teaches that deadly faults are remitted in purgatory.

Third, they bring forward Ambrose, book on the good of death, chapter 2: “For he who has not received here the remission of sins will not be there,” he says, namely in the country of the blessed. I answer that Ambrose speaks of the remission of mortal sins; for he adds, explaining: “But he will not be there, because he could not come to eternal life, because eternal life is the remission of sins”; where he calls eternal life the grace of justification, which is a certain eternal life begun; for unless we begin eternal life here, we shall never come to the glory of the blessed.

Fourth, Peter Martyr objects the same Ambrose, who on chapter 22 of Luke, and in sermon 46, says: “I read of Peter's tears; I do not read of his satisfaction.” I answer that in that place excuse is called satisfaction. For we are accustomed commonly to say, I will satisfy him, that is, I will clear by words the charge brought against me, and show that I am unjustly accused. Ambrose, then, there praises Peter for not having excused his sin, as Adam did, but rather having confessed and accused it with tears; for he adds thus: “Rightly indeed did Peter weep and keep silent, because what is accustomed to be wept over is not accustomed to be excused, and what cannot be defended can be washed away.” And above he had said: “I find that he wept, I do not find what he said,” since namely Peter said nothing in his own clearing.

Fifth, Calvin objects Augustine, tract 49 on John: “All souls,” he says, “when they have gone out of the world, have their different receptions: the good have joy, and the bad torments; but when the resurrection has taken place, both the joy of the good will be fuller and the torments of the bad heavier, when they are tormented with the body.” And below, speaking of the joy of the good: “The rest,” he says, “which is given immediately after death, each one receives when he dies, if he is worthy of it.” I answer that joy and rest are given immediately from death to all who depart in charity; for at once all are made certain of their eternal salvation, which brings immense joy; yet that joy is not given in the same way, but in different ways, according to the diversity of merits; for to some it is given without admixture of grief, to some not without an admixture of temporal punishments, as the same blessed Augustine very often teaches.

Sixth, they object Augustine, book of the Hypognosticon, past the middle: “The first place,” he says, “the faith of Catholics believes on divine authority to be the kingdom of heaven; the second, hell, where every apostate, or one alien from the faith of Christ, will experience eternal torments; a third we are altogether ignorant of, indeed we do not find it to be in the holy Scriptures.” He has the same in sermon 14 on the words of the Apostle, and book 1, chapter 28, on the deserts and remission of sins. I answer that he speaks of eternal places; for he writes against Pelagius, who had invented a third place for unbaptized infants, whom he wished to be happy with a certain natural happiness outside hell and outside the kingdom of heaven. But that Augustine, or whoever was the author of the Hypognosticon, did not deny a third temporary place after this life can be understood from this, that the Catholic faith teaches that besides heaven and hell there was, before the passion of Christ, the bosom of Abraham, where the souls of the holy Fathers dwelt, Luke 16. Ineptly, then, does Erasmus put in the margin at those words, a third we are altogether ignorant of: purgatory; as if he said, purgatory is a third place of which the Catholic faith is ignorant.

Seventh, Peter Martyr objects the same Augustine, expounding that of Psalm 31, Blessed are they whose sins are covered, where he says thus: “If he covered sins, he would not notice them; if he would not notice them, he would not take note of them; if he would not take note of them, he would not punish them; he would not acknowledge them, he preferred to pardon them.” I answer that he speaks of eternal punishment; for that God requires the temporal one is plain from the places cited above from the same Augustine, tract 124 on John and on Psalm 50.

Eighth, they bring forward Augustine in epistle 54 to Macedonius, where he says that after this life there is no place for correcting morals. I answer that this has nothing to do with the matter; for although after this life there will be no place where the wicked are converted and correct their morals, there will nevertheless be one where the light sins of the just, which cannot be called wickednesses, are purged, and where temporal punishment can be paid for crimes already forgiven.

Ninth, they object the same Augustine in epistle 80 to Hesychius: “In whatever state each man's last day finds him, in that the last day of the world will overtake him; since as each one dies on that day, so on that day will he be judged.” I answer that Augustine signifies that after this life merits or demerits do not increase, and therefore that all are to be judged to glory or to hell, and to greater or lesser rewards or torments, according as their works were done before death.

They object, tenth, Theophylact, who on chapter 8 of Matthew says thus: “The soul, having gone out, does not wander in the world; for the souls of the just are in the hand of God, but those of sinners too are led away hence, as the soul of the rich man.” I answer that Theophylact indicates that souls do not roam freely through the world, as demons do, but are shut up in their receptacles; and although he mentions only two places, yet he does not exclude others. But we can refer the souls which are led to purgatory to either of the two which he sets down; for because they are just, they can rightly be said to be in the hand of God, although they are not in the kingdom; and likewise they can be said to be in the lower world, because purgatory is a part of the lower world, or at least a neighbouring place.

Eleventh, they object Jerome, who on chapter 9 of Amos speaks thus: “When the soul, loosed from the bonds of the body, has liberty of flying where it will, or where it is compelled to go, it will either be led to the lower regions, of which it is written, In hell who shall confess to thee? or certainly be lifted up to the heavenly places.” I answer that Jerome does not speak of natural death, but of the loosing of the soul from the body by contemplation; for he disputes in that place about the ungodly soul, which, wherever it turns itself in thought, will there find God the avenger. And so, having said, or certainly be lifted up to the heavenly places, he adds: “where are the spirits of wickedness in the heavenly places; and if it wishes to claim for itself the knowledge of the true circumcision, and, having conceived humility, to dwell in the mountains, there too it will not be able to escape the searching hand of God; but if, despairing of salvation, it tries to avoid the eyes of the Lord, and to come to the farthest bounds of false waves, there too the Lord will command the crooked and ancient serpent, who is the enemy and avenger, and he will bite it. Taken also by vices and sins, it will be struck by the sword of the Lord, that through torments and punishments it may return to the Lord.”

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CAPUT  XIII. 
Solvuntur  objectiones  ex  Patribus. 
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qui  tract.    1.  conlra  Deuieirianum  .  ail  in   line  : 
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r;iiii  post  jusiiliciiliiMiciii,  qii,i  Dcii  cx  i  oihIi^mo  hu- 
lislil  pro  pociia.  <Jii(it|  liic  CypriiiiiuH  ilc  |iriiiri:  lo- 
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incriicrr.  Ilciii  c\  scipiciilibiis:  .\iiui  pii^l  vcib.i  ci- 
liilii  ii  itriMilio.  imiiiciliiili;  scipiitur  :  llir  vita  aut 
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sa  (liiiicrc.  K[  riirsiim:  .\ciinc  cnini  qni  in  pran- 
scnli  vita  iicccala  nun  atilnrrnnl,  jtustra  cunau- 
Intiunvni  aliqnani  invvnluri  snnl. 
Ilcspoiidco  :  bo(|ui  ciim  do  rciiiissione  mortii- 
liiim  :  naiii  (;\cmplo  Kpuloiiis.  i|ui  iii  (^'chciiiiii  crii- 
ciiibiiliir,  moiicl,  iie  dillcriiiniis  convci.sioiuiii  iii 
aliam  \il;mi.  i\cmo  aulcm  c:illiolicorum  duccl.cul- 
p;is  l;iciliiilcs  rcmiili  iii  piirgalorio. 
Tcrlio.  prolcriiiit  Ambrosium  lib.  dc  boiio  inor 
tis  ciip.  2.  Oni  vnini,   in(|uit  ,  liic  non  avcvpvrit 
rvmissionein  jivccaloruni,  illic  non  eril,  niniirnni 
in  palria  bvaturum. 
l{cs|)oiidi'o  :  boijui  Ambrosium  dc  rcmissioni! 
morliilium  ;  N:im  siibjuniiit  cxplicans  :  Non  eril 
anlvm.  quia  ad  vihnii  avlcrninn  nun  pulnvrit 
pcrrmire  ,  quia  vila  aelerna  remi.isio  pv.cca- 
toruni  est :  ubi  vitam  aclernam  vocalgratiiim  ju- 
stiliciiiionis.  (jinie  csl  vila  qi:aedam  actcrna  in- 
clioiila  :  nisi  cnim  hic  vitiim  aoternam  inchbemus, 
uum(|Uiim  ;ul  gloriam  beatorum  veniemus. 
Quarto  ,  objicit  Pclrus  .Miirtyr  cundcm  Ambro- 
siuin.  qui  in  cap.  2.3.  Liicac  ,  el  scrm.  Uj.  ail  : 
l.arlirijmas  Pelri  lego  ,  salisfactioncm  non  leyo. 
Ucspondco:  Appellari  satisraclionem  eo  loco  cx- 
cnsalioiicm.  Solcinus  enim  vulgo  diccrc  ;  Ego  sa- 
tisfaciam  iUi.  idcst,  purgabo  vcrbis  criinen  objo- 
ctum,  el  osiendam  me  injusle  accusari.  Laudiili- 
giiur  ibi  Ambrosius  Pctrum,  quod  non  e.vcusaverit 
peccalum  suum.  quomodo  Adam  fccit,  sed  lachry- 
mis  poiius  confessus  fucril  ei  accusavcrit,  sic  c- 
nim  subjungil  :  Recie  plane  Pelrus  jhvil.  el  la- 
cuii,  quia  quod  dejleri,  solet.  non  solel  excuscn^i, 
cl  quod  defendi  non  jiolcst.  ablui  potesl.  Et  su- 
pra  di.veral:  Invenio  quod  fleverit .  non  iiivenio 
(juid  dixerit.  quia  nimirum  nihil  Petrus  dixerut 
in  sui  puKjationem. 
Quinio.  objicit  Calvinus  Augustinuin  tracl.49.  iii 
Joan.  Habenti  inquit.o??i?ies  animae.cum  de  sae- 
culo  cxicrinl .  diversas  recepliones  suas  :  ha- 
bent  gaudiuni  boni  el  mali  tormenta  :  sed  ciuii 
factafaerit  resurreclio  ,  et  bonorum  gaudium 
amplius  erit  ,  et  maloruni  tormenta  graviora  , 
quundo  cum  corpore  torquebunlur.  ti  infra   de 
:is;) 
UE  PURGATUIUO 
r 
piaudio  bonorum  loquens:  Rcquiem ,  inquit,  quae 
continuo  post  mortem  datur,  si  ea  dignus  esl  , 
tunc  accipil  qui^que  cjim  morilur. 
Re^pondeo:  Gaudiuin  cl  requiem  dari  stalim  a 
niorle  omnibus  ,  qui  iu  cliarilate  decedunt  ;  Nain 
inox  omnes  cerli  fiuni  suae  aclcrnae  salulis,  quod 
ingens  gaudium  alTerl ;  tamon  non  eodcm  modo 
dalur  islud  gaudium.  sed  diversimode,  pro  meri- 
tnrum  diversilalc;  quibusdam  cnim  dalur  sinc  nd- 
mixlione  duk)ris,quibusdam  non  sinc  temporMlium 
admixlioncm  poenarum  ,  ut  idem  b.  Augustinus 
saepissime  docet. 
Sexlo  ,  objiciunt  Augustinum  lib.  liypognoslici 
ullra  medium:  Primum,  inquit,  locum  fides  ca- 
ihoUcorum  divina  auciorilale  credit ,  rennum 
esse  coeluruui :  secundiwi ,  (jehennam  .  uhi  o- 
mnis  apostata,vcl  a  fide  Chrisli  alienus,  aetcrna 
supplicia  experietur;  lertium  penilus  ignora- 
mus  ,  immo  7iec  cssc  in  Scripturis  sanctis  in- 
venimus.  Idem  babet  scrmone  14.  de  vcrbis  apo- 
stuiicis  et  lib.  \.  cap.  28.  de  peccatorum  roerilis 
et  rcmissione. 
Respondeo:  Loquilur  de  locis  aelernis,  Scribit 
enim  conlra  Pelagium  ,  qui  inveneral  tertiurn  lo- 
cum  pro  parvulis  non  baplizalis,  quos  volebat  fore 
beatos  quadam  naturali  beatiludine  extra  infcr- 
num  ,  ct  cxtra  regnum  coelorum.Quod  aulem  no!i 
negaveril  Augustinus,  aut  quicuraque  fuit,  auctor 
hypognostici ,  lertium  locum  temporarinm  post 
iianc  vitam,  ex  eo  polesl  intelligi  ,  quod  fides  ca- 
Ibolica  docet  praeter  coelum  et  infernum  fuisse 
anle  Chrisli  passionem  sinum  Aabrahae  ,  ubi  de- 
gebant  animae  sanctorum  Palrum,  Luc.  16.  inepte 
igitur  Erasmusponil  in  margine  ad  illa  verba:  ler- 
tium  penilus  ignoramus  purgalorium,  quasi  dical, 
purgalorium  est  locus  tertius  ,  quem  ignorat  fides 
catholica. 
Seplirao,  Petrus  Mar!yr  objicit  eundpm  Augu- 
slinum,  exponenlcm  dlud  psalni.  3i.  Reati  quo- 
rum  tccla  sunt  pcccala,  ubi  sic  ait :  Si  texit  pec- 
cata,  noluil  advertere  :  si  noluit  advertere,  no- 
luit  animadvertere:  si  noluit  animadvertere,  no- 
luit  punire,  noluil  agnoscere,  maluit  ignoscere. 
Kespondeo  :  Loqui  eum  de  poena  aeterna;  Nam  de 
lemporali  ,  quod  eam  requirat  Deus,  palet  ex  lo- 
cis  supra  cilalis  cx  eodem  Augustino  Irael.  124.  in 
Joan.  et  in  psal.  50. 
Octavo,  proferunt  Augustinum  in  epistol.  54. ad 
Macedonium,  ubi  di('it,  post  hanc  vilam  non  csse 
locum  morum  corngendorum.  Respondeo:  Niliil 
lioc  facit  ad  rem;  Nasn  clsi  non  crit  post  hanc  vi- 
tam  locus.ubi  flagiliosi  convertantur.ct  mores  suos 
curriganl  ;  cril  tair.en  ,  ubi  peccala  levia  juslo- 
rum  ,  quae  llagilia  dici  non  possunt ,  purgenlur  , 
et  pro  criminibus  jam  dimissis  poena  temporalis 
lui  possit, 
I\ono,oI)iiciunt  eundem  Augustinum  in  epist.80. 
ad  Hesychium:  In  quo.  inquit.  qucmque  invene- 
rit  suus  novissimus  dies,  in  hoc  eum  comprae- 
hendct  mundi  novissimus  dies,  quojiiam  qualis 
in  die  isto  quisque  moritur  ,  talis  in  die  illo 
judicahitur.  Ilcspondeo  :  Significal  Augustinus 
posl  hanc  vilam  uon  crescere  menta  vel  demerita 
ct  ideo  judicandos  omncs  ad  gloriam  ,  vel  ad  gc- 
liennam  ,    cl  ad  majora  vel  minora  praemia  rel 
lormenta  ,   prout  erunt  opcra  facta  anle  mortem. 
Objiciunl  decimo  Theophylactum,  qui  in  cap.8. 
Malth.  sic  ait:  Anima  egressa,  inmundo  non  er- 
rat :  justorum  enim  animae  in  manu  Dei  sunt  , 
poccatorum  vero  et  ipsae  hinc  abducuntur ,  ut 
anima  divilis.  Respondeo  :  Indicat  Theophyla- 
ctus  ,  non  vagari  libere  animas  per  mundum  ,  ul 
daemones  faciunt ,  sed  clausas  csse  in  suis  re- 
ccplacuilis  ,  et  quamquam  non  meminil  nisi  duo- 
rum  locorum  ,  tamcn  non  excludit  alia.  Possu- 
mus  aulem  animas  ,  quae  ad  purgatorium  dedu- 
cunlur  ,  revocare  ad  quodlibet  eorum  duorum  , 
quae  ipse  ponil ;  Nam  quia  juslae  sunt,  recle  pos- 
sunt  dici  esse  in  m;mu  Dei  ,  licet  non  sinl  iit  rc- 
gno  ;  et  similiter  dici  possunl  esse  in  inferno  , 
quia  purgaliorium  pars  est  inferni,  vel  certe  locus 
vicinus. 
Undecimo  ,  Hieronyraum  objiciunt ,  qui  sic  in 
cap.  9.  Amos  loquilur :  Quando  anima  vinculis 
laxata  corporeis  ,  volandi  quo  velit  ,  sive  quo 
ire  compellilur ,  habuerit  libertatem  ,  aut  ad  in- 
ferna  ducetitr  ,  de  quibus  scriptum  est ;  In  in- 
ferno  quis  confitebitur  tibi?  aut  certe  ad  coele- 
stia  sublevabitur. 
Respondco  :  Non  loqui  Hieronymum  de  morle 
naturali,  sed  de  solutione  animae  a  corpore  per 
speculalionem  ;  Nara  disputat  eo  loco  de  anima 
impia,  quae  quocumque  se  vertcrit  cogitatione,  ibi 
Deum  ullorem  inveniet.  Ilaque  cum  dixisset:  Aut 
ccrte  ad  coelestia  sublevabitur  ,  sub.iungit :  ubi 
sunt  spiritualia  nequitiae  in  coelestibus  .  et  si 
sibi  vere  circumcisionis  scienliam  voluerit  ven- 
dicare,  et  humilitate  concepta  habitare  in  mon- 
tibus,  ct  ibi  scrutantem  manum  Dei  evadere  non 
valebit;  quod  si  desperans  salutem  oeulos  Domi- 
ni  vitare  tentaveritj  et  in  ultimos  falsorum  flu- 
ctuum  terminos  pervenire  ,  etiam  ibi  mandabit 
Dominus  serpenti  tortuoso  et  antiquo  ,  qui  est 
inimicus  et  ultor  ,  et  mordebit  eam.  Capla  quo- 
que  vitiis,  atque  peccatis  gladio  Domini  percu- 
tietur  ,  ut  per  cruciatus ,  atquc  supplicia  ad  Do- 
minum  revcrtatur. 
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