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Chapter 36: The Second and Third Parts of the Fifth Principal Reason for the Power of the Supreme Pontiff in Temporal Matters Are Defended

Our translation, from the Latin of the Opera Omnia (Paris: Vivès, 1870–74), vol. XII, De Potestate Summi Pontificis in Temporalibus adversus Gulielmum Barclaium, a treatise of 1610. The Latin source text is public domain; this English rendering is released with the site. Scripture quotations follow Bellarmine's Vulgate citations, rendered in Douay-Rheims wording where he quotes exactly. Click “Show the Latin” for the original (raw OCR of the scan; scanning errors remain — the scan itself is the authority).

In the thirty-fourth chapter Barclay, after a long digression on the exemption of clerics, returns to attacking the second part of my principal reason, which he had proposed at the beginning of chapter 32. My argument was this: It is the office of a shepherd to separate and shut up furious rams that are destroying the fold; but a prince is a furious ram destroying the fold when he is Catholic in faith, but so bad that he greatly harms the Church and religion, as if he sells bishoprics, plunders churches, and so on; therefore the shepherd of the Church will be able to shut him up and reduce him to order. To this argument Barclay answered in that chapter 32 that the whole argument can be granted, since nothing else is made of it than that a bad prince, harmful to the Church, can be separated from the fellowship of the flock by a sentence of excommunication. But we refuted that answer in chapter 33, to which we refer the reader. Now, then, in chapter 34 Barclay adds these things: “I now return,” he says, “to the argument which was proposed at the beginning of chapter 32, and I answer that it pertains nothing to the taking away of any temporal goods whatever, much less of a kingdom. For it is certain, and more certain than certain, that excommunication, by which alone perverse Christians are separated and shut out from the fellowship of the faithful and the communion of the Church, takes from no one his patrimony and temporal goods.” So he, who after many words spent in explaining this matter concludes that if the Pope cannot by excommunication take away patrimonies from private men, much less can he by the same censure deprive kings and princes of empires and kingdoms. “Is it established,” he says, “that more power over princes than over private men has been given him by the law of God? or must princes live on a harder and worse condition than private men, so that what the Church cannot exercise on a private man, it can on a prince?”

I answer: when I said that a furious ram can be separated and shut up by the shepherd, I did not understand by separation and shutting up excommunication alone, but excommunication and deposition; for as the shepherd not only separates the ram from the flock, but also shuts him up as in a prison, that he may no longer lead the flock, so the Supreme Pontiff not only separates a king destroying the Church by excommunication from the communion of the faithful, but also deposes him, and reduces him to order, that he may no longer rule the peoples. So that whole very long disputation, by which Barclay proves that men are not deprived of their own patrimony by excommunication, is superfluous, nor has Barclay grasped the force of our argument; just as he also expounded the word recludere by the word exclude, when it should have been expounded by the word shut in, as we taught in chapter 33. I add besides that there is a great difference between private wealth and public jurisdiction, as also between substance or riches and power or authority; for a man can be very poor in private wealth, and have a public and most ample jurisdiction; and on the contrary can be very rich in gold and silver, fields and vineyards and herds, and have no political power over other men. From which difference it comes about that, although excommunication does not deprive of one's own patrimony and wealth and riches, yet it deprives of the right and power of human intercourse, of elections and contracts and the like, and at the same time hinders public forensic jurisdiction; for it is not lawful for excommunicated men to exercise forensic judgments, to hear causes, to pass sentence, to punish the guilty, as we proved above from the chapter Ad probandum, on sentence and the thing judged. And although by force of excommunication alone, except in the case of heresy and apostasy, the loss of a kingdom or empire does not follow, yet the Supreme Pontiff, who by excommunicating can suspend jurisdiction, as we said, can also by deposing deprive of all jurisdiction and royal power; which, as we showed in the prolegomena, is the common opinion of the doctors and of the Church herself. Nor yet does it follow from this that the Pontiff has more power over princes than over private men; for private men cannot be deposed from a kingdom because they have no kingdom, not because they are less liable to the power of the supreme Shepherd; and yet they too can be deprived of the things they have, which happens when they are fined with a money penalty, or exile, or prison, or another bodily punishment; for it is false, what Barclay too often repeats, that bodily punishment is placed in the power of the political magistrate alone; the contrary of which practice shows, especially in the tribunal of the Holy Office.

Barclay afterwards adds another reason, which he arranges in the form of syllogistic reasoning in this way: “The Supreme Pontiff does not now have a greater rule over temporal princes than he had before he was himself a temporal prince. But before he was a temporal prince, he had no temporal rule over them in any way. Therefore now too he has none over them in any way.” And since the proposition seems manifest, he proves the assumption in this way: “No inferior and subject has rule over his superior and lord, so as to be able to judge him in that very thing in which he is subject to him. But the Pope, before he became a temporal prince, was inferior and subject to kings and emperors as to temporal things. Therefore he has no temporal rule over them, so as to be able to judge them in temporal matters.” I answer: the assumption of the former syllogism is false. Therefore the conclusion too is false. For the Supreme Pontiff did not acquire the right which he has in temporal matters over Christian kings and princes from the temporal principality which he now possesses, but had it from Christ, when he received from him the Apostolic and supreme power over the whole Church, to be his general Vicar, head and ruler and shepherd and prince of all the faithful; for although, as has often been said, that power is in itself spiritual, yet it extends to temporal things in that way in which the human spirit, although it is truly and properly spirit, not body or bodily, yet rules the members of the body over which it presides, and chastises and punishes them, as it knows to be expedient for salvation. Wherefore the proof of the assumption in the latter syllogism has no strength; for the assumption of the latter syllogism too is false, and thereby the conclusion of the whole syllogism is also false; for it is false that the Supreme Pontiff was ever by right subject to kings and emperors, nor did Barclay prove this, which he assumes as proved. But, he says, the adversaries say that the exemption of ecclesiastical persons was introduced by human law. I answer: Bellarmine, who is cited in the margin, does not say by human law only, but by human and divine law. Then, those very men who say that the exemption of clerics is of human law add that it is, as to persons, very conformable to natural and divine law, as is clear from Dominic Soto on the fourth, distinction 25, question 2, conclusion 5. Besides, the same authors who deny that the exemption of clerics is of divine law expressly affirm that the Supreme Pontiff could and ought to have exempted clerics, even without consulting temporal princes; and that temporal princes cannot establish the contrary by their laws, as we noted above from Vitoria, Soto, Ledesma, Bañez and Covarruvias; it is false, therefore, what Barclay repeats in this place with so many empty words about an exemption granted to clerics by the privilege and gift of princes alone.

Barclay afterwards passes to the third part of the fifth principal reason for the power of the Supreme Pontiff in temporal matters; for I pass over what he himself repeats from chapter 15, which was refuted in that place. He speaks thus: “There remains Bellarmine's last argument, in refuting which there is not much need of labour. The third argument, he says, is: A shepherd can and ought so to feed all the sheep as is fitting for them; therefore the Pontiff can order Christians to those things, and compel them to those things, to which each of them is bound according to his state, that is, compel each to serve God in that way in which according to his state he ought; but kings ought to serve God by defending the Church and punishing heretics and schismatics; therefore he can and ought to order kings to do this, and if they do not, even to compel them by excommunication and other fitting means.” To this argument Barclay answers that, if it is a matter of spiritual feeding and spiritual punishments, the whole argument can be granted; for the Supreme Pontiff is bound to feed all Christians with spiritual food; for to feed them with bodily food his means, however ample, would in no way suffice; so also he is bound to compel all to their duty by spiritual punishments, of which the gravest is excommunication; but he cannot go further; and to prove this he alleges John Driedo in book 2 on Christian liberty, chapter 4. But this answer of Barclay was refuted above in many places, and now can be refuted from Driedo himself, whom he cites; for Barclay writes that no other punishment of papal judgment and correction against offending emperors is set by Driedo except excommunication alone. But John Driedo is at odds with Barclay, and confutes him in these words, book 1 on Christian liberty, chapter 14: “But this is not to be passed over in silence, that the Pope, out of the fullness of power over all Christian princes, can deprive kings and princes on account of the crime of heresy of their kingdoms and empires, and in temporal matters wholly exempt the Christian people from obedience and subjection to them.” So Driedo, whom Barclay alleged as the patron of his opinion; and certainly that notable doctor John Driedo could not more clearly refute Barclay's lie and imposture. What we said, then, and all Catholics teach, that the supreme Shepherd of Christians can compel all to render their duty in the service of God, is not understood of compulsion by excommunication alone, but also by deprivation of kingdoms and principalities, if the same shepherd shall judge it expedient for the salvation of the flock.

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CAPUT  XXXVI. 
Defenditur  secunda,  et  tertia  'pars  rationis 
quintae  principalis  pro  potestate  Pontificis 
Maximi  in  temporalibus. 
In  cap.  34.  Barclaius  post  longam  digres¬ 
sionem  de  exemptione-  clericorum,  redit  ad 
oppugnandam  secundam  partem  rationis 
meae  principalis,  quam  proposuerat  initio 
cap.  32.  Argumentum  meum  hoc  erat  :  Pa¬ 
storis  munus  est  arietes  furiosos,  atque  ovile 
destruentes  separare,  et  recludere  :  Prin¬ 
ceps  autem  est  aries  furiosus,  atque  ovile 
destruens,  quando  est  Catholicus  fide,  sed 
adeo  malus,  ut  multum  obsit  Ecclesiae,  et 
Religioni,  ut  si  Episcopatus  vendat,  Eccle¬ 
sias  diripiat,  etc.  Ergo  poterit  Pastor  Eccle¬ 
siae  eum  recludere,  et  in  ordinem  redigere. 
Ad  hoc  argumentum  respondit  in  illo  cap. 
32.  Barclaius ,  totum  argumentum  posse 
concedi,  quoniam  ex  eo  nihil  aliud  efficitur, 
nisi  posse  principem  malum ,  et  Ecclesiae 
noxium  separari  a  gregis  consortio  per  sen¬ 
tentiam  excommunicationis.  Nos  vero  eam 
responsionem  in  cap.  33.  refutavimus,  ad 
quam  lectorem  remittimus.  Nunc  igitur  in 
cap.  34.  Barclaius  haec  addit. 
«  Ad  argumentum,  inquit,  nunc  revertor, 
quod  cap.  32.  initio  propositum  est,  et  re¬ 
spondeo,  nihil  illud  ad  bonorum  quorumli¬ 
bet  temporalium,  nedum  ad  regni  adem¬ 
ptionem  pertinere.  Certum  enim  est,  et  certo 
certius,  excommunicationem,  qua  sola  se¬ 
parantur,  et  excluduntur  perversi  Christiani 
a  consortio  fidelium,  et  communione  Eccle¬ 
siae,  nemini  patrimonium,  et  bona  tempo¬ 
ralia  auferre  ».  Haec  ille,  qui  post  multa 
verba  in  hac  re  explicanda  consumpta  con¬ 
cludit,  si  non  possit  Papa  per  excommunica¬ 
tionem  adimere  patrimonia  privatis  homi¬ 
nibus,  multo  minus  posse  per  eamdem  cen¬ 
suram  privare  reges,  ac  principes  imperiis, 
atque  regnis. 
«  Numquid,  inquit,  plus  ei  potestatis  in 
principes,  quam  in  privatos,  Dei  lege,  tri¬ 
butum  esse  constat?  aut  numquid  principi¬ 
bus,  quam  privatis  duriore,  et  deteriore 
conditione  est  vivendum,  ut  quod  Ecclesia 
in  privatum  nequeat,  id  in  Principem  possit 
exercere?  » 
Respondeo  :  Cum  dixi,  arietem  furiosum 
posse  per  Pastorem  separari,  et  recludi, 
non  intellexi  per  separationem  et  reclusio¬ 
nem,  solam  excommunicationem,  sed  ex¬ 
communicationem,  et  depositionem  :  quem¬ 
admodum  enim  pastor  non  solum  separat 
arietem  a  grege,  sed  etiam  recludit  quasi 
in  carcere,  ut  non  amplius  gregem  ducat  : 
sic  Pontifex  summus  regem  destruentem 
Ecclesiam,  non  solum  separat  per  excom¬ 
municationem  a  communione  fidelium,  sed 
etiam  deponit,  et  in  ordinem  redigit,  ut  non 
amplius  populos  regat.  Itaque  tota  illa  lon¬ 
gissima  disputatio,  qua  Barclaius  probat, 
per  excommunicationem  non  privari  homi¬ 
nes  proprio  patrimonio,  supervacanea  est, 
neque  vim  argumehti  nostri  Barclaius  asse¬ 
cutus  est  :  quemadmodum  etiam  vocem, 
recludere,  exposuit  per  vocem,  excludere, 
cum  exponenda  esset  per  vocem,  includere, 
ut  cap.  33.  docuimus. 
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IN  REBUS  TEMPORALIBUS 
Addo  praeterea  magnum  esse  discrimen 
inter  privatas  opes,  et  publicam  jurisdictio¬ 
nem  ;  ut  etiam  inter  substantiam,  sive  divi¬ 
tias,  et  potestatem,  sive  auctoritatem  :  po¬ 
test  enim  homo  aliquis  pauperrimus  esse 
privatis  opibus,  et  jurisdictionem  publicam, 
atque  amplissimam  habere  :  et  potest  contra 
ditissimus  esse  auro,  atque  argento,  agris, 
et  vineis,  et  armentis  :  et  nullam  habere  in 
alios  homines  politicam  potestatem.  Ex  quo 
discrimine  fit,  ut  quamvis  excommunicatio 
non  privet  patrimonio  proprio,  et  opibus,  et 
divitiis,  privet  tamen  jure,  et  potestate  com¬ 
mercii  humani,  electionum,  et  contractuum, 
et  similium ;  et  simul  impediat  publicam 
forensem  jurisdictionem  :  neque  enim  licet 
excommunicatis  forensia  judicia  exercere, 
audire  causas,  sententiam  ferre,  insontes 
animadvertere ,  ut  supra  probavimus,  ex 
cap.  Ad  probandum,  de  sent.  et  re  judic. 
Quamvis  autem  ex  vi  solius  excommuni¬ 
cationis,  nisi  in  casu  hseresis,  et  apostasiae, 
non  sequatur  amissio  regni,  vel  imperii  : 
tamen  summus  Pontifex,  qui  potest  excom¬ 
municando  suspendere  jurisdictionem,  ut 
diximus,  potest  etiam  deponendo  privare 
omni  jurisdictione,  et  potestate  regia  :  quae 
ut  in  prolegomenis  ostendimus,  communis 
est  Doctorum,  et  Ecclesiae  ipsius  sententia. 
Nec  tamen  hinc  sequitur,  plus  habere  pote¬ 
statis  Pontificem  in  principes,  quam  in  pri¬ 
vatos  :  nam  privati  non  possunt  deponi  a 
regno,  quia  regnum  non  habent,  non  quia 
minus  obnoxii  sint  potestati  summi  Pastoris : 
et  tamen  possunt  etiam  ipsi  privari  rebus, 
quas  habent  ;  quod  fit  cum  poena  pecunia¬ 
ria,  aut  exilii,  aut  carceris,  aut  alia  corpo¬ 
rali  poena  mulctantur  :  falsum  enim  est, 
quod  Barclaius  nimium  seepe  repetit,  cor¬ 
poralem  poenam  in  solius  politici  magistra¬ 
tus  potestate  positam  esse  :  cujus  contra¬ 
rium  praxis  ostendit,  praesertim  in  tribunali 
sancti  Officii. 
Addit  postea  Barclaius  aliam  rationem, 
quam  in  forma  syllogisticae  ratiocinationis 
hoc  modo  disponit  : 
«  Summus  Pontifex  non  habet  nunc  majus 
imperium  in  principes  temporales,  quam 
habuit  antequam  ipse  esset  princeps  tempo¬ 
ralis. 
«  Atqui  antequam  esset  princeps  tempo¬ 
ralis,  nullum  in  eos  temporale  imperium 
ullo  modo  habuit. 
«  Ergo  nullum  nunc  quoque  in  eos  ullo 
modo  habet.  » 
Et  quoniam  propositio  manifesta  videtur, 
probat  assumptionem  hoc  modo  : 
«  Nemo  inferior,  et  subjectus  habet  impe¬ 
rium  in  suum  superiorem,  et  dominum,  ut 
possit  eum  judicare  in  eo  ipso  in  quo  est  ei 
subjectus  : 
«  Papa  autem,  antequam  fieret  princeps 
temporalis,  erat  regibus,  et  imperatoribus, 
quantum  ad  temporalia,  inferior,  et  subje¬ 
ctus  : 
«  Ergo  non  habet  in  eos  temporale  impe¬ 
rium,  ut  possit  eos  in  temporalibus  judi¬ 
care.  » 
Respondeo  :  Assumptio  prioris  syllogismi 
falsa  est.  Proinde  etiam  falsa  conclusio  est. 
Siquidem  summus  Pontifex  jus,  quod  habet 
in  temporalibus  supra  reges,  et  principes 
Christianos,  non  acquisivit  ex  Principatu 
temporali,  quem  nunc  possidet,  sed  habuit 
a  Christo,  quando  ab  eo  accepit  potestatem 
Apostolicam,  et  supremam  supra  omnem 
Ecclesiam,  ut  essetipsius  Yicarius  generalis, 
caput,  et  rector,  et  pastor,  et  princeps  om¬ 
nium  fidelium  :  quamvis  enim,  ut  saepe  di¬ 
ctum  est,  ea  potestas  in  se  spiritualis  sit, 
tamen  extenditur  ad  temporalia  eo  modo, 
quo  spiritus  humanus,  quamvis  vere,  et  pro¬ 
prie  spiritus  sit,  non  corpus,  vel  corporalis, 
tamen  regit  membra  corporis,  cui  prsesidet, 
et  ea  castigat,  et  punit,  prout  ad  salutem 
expedire  cognoscit.  Quare  probatio  assum¬ 
ptionis  in  posteriore  syllogismo,  nullas  vires 
habet,  nam  assumptio  quoque  syllogismi 
posterioris  est  falsa,  ac  per  hoc  est  etiam 
totius  syllogismi  falsa  conclusio  :  si  quidem 
falsum  est,  summum  Pontificem  fuisse  un¬ 
quam  regibus,  et  imperatoribus  jure  sub¬ 
jectum,  neque  id  probavit  Barclaius,  quod 
ut  probatum  assumit. 
At,  inquit,  adversarii  dicunt,  exemptio¬ 
nem  personarum  Ecclesiasticarum  jure  hu¬ 
mano  introductam  esse. 
Respondeo  :  Bellarminus,  qui  citatur  in 
margine,  non  dicit  jure  humano  solum,  sed 
jure  humano,  et  divino.  Deinde  illi  ipsi,  qui 
exemptionem  Clericorum  dicunt  esse  de  jure 
humano,  addunt  eam,  quoad  personas,  esse 
valde  conformem  juri  naturali,  et  divino,  ut 
perspicuum  est  ex  Dominico  de  Soto  in  4. 
dist.  25.  quaest.  2.  conci.  5.  Praeterea iidem 
auctores,  qui  negant  exemptionem  Clerico¬ 
rum  esse  de  jure  divino  diserte  affirmant, 
summum  Pontificem  potuisse,  et  debuisse 
eximere  clericos,  etiam  principibus  tempo¬ 
ralibus  inconsultis  :  neque  posse  temporales 
IN  REBUS  TEMPORALIBUS 
105 
principes  contrarium  suis  legibus  constitue¬ 
re,  ut  supra  notavimus,  ex  Victoria,  Soto, 
Ledesmio,  Bannesio,  et  Covarruvia  :  falsum 
est  igitur  quod  tot  verbis  inanibus  hoc  loco 
Barclaius  repetit  de  exemptione  solo  princi- 
pum  privilegio,  et  munere  clericis  concessa. 
Transit  postea  Barclaius  ad  tertiam  par¬ 
tem  rationis  quintse  principalis  pro  potestate 
summi  Pontificis  in  temporalibus  :  omitto 
enim  quee  ipse  repetit  ex  c.  15.  quse  ibidem 
refutata  sunt,  sic  autem  loquitur :  «  Superest 
supremum  Bellarmini  argumentum,  in  quo 
refutando  non  multa  opera  opus  est.  Ter¬ 
tium,  inquit,  argumentum  est  »  :  Potest 
Pastor,  ac  debet  omnes  oves  ita  pascere,  ut 
eis  convenit :  ergo  potest  Pontifex  Christia¬ 
nis  ea  jubere,  atque  ad  ea  cogere  ad  quse 
quilibet  eorum  secundum  statum  suum  te¬ 
netur,  id  est,  singulos  cogere,  ut  eo  modo 
Deo  serviant,  quo  secundum  statum  suum 
debent :  debent  autem  reges  Deo  servire  de¬ 
fendendo  Ecclesiam,  puniendoque  haereti¬ 
cos,  et  schismaticos  :  ergo  potest,  ac  debet 
regibus,  jubere  ut  hoc  faciant,  et  nisi  fece¬ 
rint,  etiam  cogere  per  excommunicationem, 
aliasque  commodas  rationes. 
Ad  hoc  argumentum  Barclaius  respondet, 
si  agatur  de  pastu,  et  poenis  spiritualibus, 
totum  argumentum  concedi  posse  :  tenetur 
enim  summus  Pontifex  pascere  omnes  Chri¬ 
stianos  pastu  spirituali :  nam  ad  pascendum 
pastu  corporali,  facultates  ejus  quantumvis 
amplse  sint,  nullo  modo  sufficerent  :  sic 
etiam  tenetur  cogere  omnes  ad  officium 
suum  poenis  spiritualibus,  quarum  gravissi¬ 
ma  excommunicatio  est,  sed  ulterius  pro¬ 
gredi  non  potest :  et  allegat  ad  hoc  proban¬ 
dum  Joannem  Driedonem  in  lib.  ii.  de  liber¬ 
tate  Christiana  cap.  4. 
Sed  hsec  Barclaii  responsio  supra  refutata 
est  multis  in  locis,  et  nunc  ex  ipso  Driedone, 
quem  ipse  citat,  refutari  potest  :  scribit 
enim  Barclaius  a  Driedone  nullam  aliam 
judicii,  et  correctionis  Papalis  in  imperato¬ 
res  delinquentes  poenam,  nisi  solam  excom¬ 
municationem  poni.  At  Joan.  Driedo  repu¬ 
gnat  Barclaio,  eumque  his  verbis  confutat, 
lib.  i  de  libertate  Christiana,  cap.  14.  «  Ve¬ 
rum  hoc  non  est  silentio  prsetereundum, 
quod  Papa  ex  plenitudine  potestatis  super 
universos  principes  Christianos,  potest  reges 
ac  principes  propter  hseresis  crimen  privare 
suis  regnis,  atque  imperiis,  et  in  temporali¬ 
bus  prorsus  eximere  plebem  Christianam  ab 
obedientia,  et  subjectione  eorum.  »  Hsec 
Driedo,  quem  in  patronum  sententise  suse 
allegavit  Barclaius  ;  qui  certe  insignis  Do- 
ctor  Joannes  Driedo  non  poterat  clarius 
mendacium,  et  imposturam  Barclaii  redar¬ 
guere.  Quod  ergo  nos  diximus,  et  docent 
omnes  Catholici,  posse  Pastorem  summum 
Christianorum  cogere  omnes-  ad  officium 
suum  praestandum  in  obsequium  Dei  ;  non 
intelligitur  de  sola  coactione,  per  excommu¬ 
nicationem,  sed  etiam  per  privationem 
regnorum,  et  principatum,  si  ad  salutem 
gregis  idem  pastor  expedire  judicaverit. 
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